SAN FRANCISCO | Palace Hotel Tower | 669 FT | 60 Floors - Page 5

FourOneFive · #81 Posted **May 4, 2008, 8:06 PM**

I don't know if anyone caught this in the John King article from May 2nd, but it appears the Palace Hotel Tower addition will be reduced in height under the proposed rezoning.

Besides the obvious accents on the skyline, the proposed rezoning raises heights more "modestly" in other locations. There's space for a 400-foot tower connected to the Palace Hotel on New Montgomery Street, for instance, and a 450-foot shaft on Howard Street next to where a 700-foot tower is allowed. On Tehama Street - an alleyway - zoning would allow a 350-foot tower.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAG110F7TL.DTL

The height will be reduced from the proposed 669', 60 stories to 400', ~40 stories. I'm assuming this reduction is a result of the proposed tower potentially casting a shadow onto Union Square? It's a shame that this tower will be cut in height because I feel most of its existing, neighboring towers are already around this height...the Paramount, St. Regis, and McKesson Plaza (One Post). So much for breaking the table top effect...

SFView · #82 Posted **May 5, 2008, 12:47 AM**

Yes, I noticed this too, along with several other large reductions in height. Actually, the height appears to have been reduced from 725' instead of 669'.

Original height proposals:
From: http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfi...sit_center.htm

Revised height proposals:

peanut gallery · #83 Posted **May 5, 2008, 5:48 PM**

I don't see where that map identifies this as a 400' parcel. It looks to me like it's still 300'. What am I missing?

SFView · #84 Posted **May 7, 2008, 3:29 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut gallery

I don't see where that map identifies this as a 400' parcel. It looks to me like it's still 300'. What am I missing?

Opps, sorry. It's not showing in the new map. John King mentioned that it is now 400'. There are other details missing from the updated scheme. It is still in a state of flux, plus keeping it somewhat sanitized helps garner approval from the public rather than opposite. You also can see similar simplification in the "1000'" renderings.

NDPhilly · #85 Posted **Jun 27, 2008, 4:26 PM**

i would really like to see some renderings of this one

Reminiscence · #86 Posted **Jun 28, 2008, 6:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by NDPhilly

i would really like to see some renderings of this one

There are none, at least as far as I'm aware of. The only somewhat vague look that we have is in the SF Rundown thread in the City Compilations forum where it shows what it would look like from the courtyard.

caramatt · #87 Posted **Jun 28, 2008, 7:10 AM**

This is one of the best looking projects on the boards. I hope it still gets built.

BTinSF · #88 Posted **Jun 28, 2008, 8:17 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by NDPhilly

i would really like to see some renderings of this one

This is all we have:

Scanned from the SF Business Times

tommaso · #89 Posted **Oct 15, 2009, 11:48 PM**

What is the current plan for this site?

tommaso · #90 Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 10:37 AM**

Is this development temporarily stalled?

viewguysf · #91 Posted **Jun 13, 2011, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by tommaso

Is this development temporarily stalled?

tommaso, are you paying any attention to the economy, anything happening in San Francisco or reading the active SF threads here? If you were, you wouldn't be asking the same questions in every thread!

The demand here is for rental apartments and SOMA tech/biotech space.

I favor the vast majority of proposels and development in San Francisco, but I hope this one dies and never sees the light of day. In hindsight, I feel it was a mistake to have built the Fairmont and Saint Francis towers. Let our most treasured hotels exist in their glory without a tower on them!

CyberEric · #92 Posted **Jun 13, 2011, 9:20 PM**

Something strange with this guy...he's asking about all of the SF and NY proposals that haven't been talked about it years.

viewguysf · #93 Posted **Jun 14, 2011, 4:09 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberEric

Something strange with this guy...he's asking about all of the SF and NY proposals that haven't been talked about it years.

Yes, he's been in Chicago too!

FourOneFive · #94 Posted **Apr 1, 2013, 10:50 PM**

Don't know the status of this project, but I found these renderings that I don't believe have been posted here:

They were posted on this site: http://www.architizer.com/en_us/proj.../#.UVoO-xymiSo

botoxic · #95 Posted **Apr 1, 2013, 11:20 PM**

From the top rendering, I count at least 57 floors plus the crown, which would make this tower significantly taller than 400 feet.

fflint · #96 Posted **Apr 1, 2013, 11:39 PM**

The proposal was for a 669-foot tower. I haven't heard anything more about this proposal in years.

minesweeper · #97 Posted **Apr 2, 2013, 5:26 AM**

This one looks pretty dead. I don't think anything's happened since 2006 when those renderings were created. One bit of news is that if the owners ever decide to pursue it again, they have a new height limit of 600', which was approved in May 2012 when a bunch of height limits were raised.

However, even if the developer announced tomorrow that they were going to build, it would probably be at least 5 years before anything happens (just look at how long the Mexican Museum Tower has taken).

SFView · #98 Posted **Apr 2, 2013, 8:15 AM**

By looking pretty dead, I hope we really mean this project is rather much more on indefinite hold.

Anyway regarding the number of floors, I believe it is still (or returned to) 60 with a basic height limit of 600'. It appears that the podium base of the tower matches floor levels to connect to the existing adjacent structures of the hotel.

SFView · #99 Posted **May 10, 2016, 7:01 PM**

It appears that the Palace Hotel Tower Project is on indefinite hold:

Original image source: http://architizer.com/projects/palac...r/media/87991/

There is some mention of the Palace Hotel Tower in this Planning document for Oceanwide Center (April/May 2016) - page 233:
http://commissions.sfplanning.org/cp...06.1523PRJ.pdf

Quote:

The under - construction Salesforce Tower and the under- construction project at 181 Fremont Street will also shade Union Square. Other than the proposed project, remaining development sites identified in the PEIR as casting shadow on Union Square include a proposed tower adjacent to the Palace Hotel (with a height limit of 600 feet, although a proposal on file at the Planning Department seeks approval for an approximately 700-foot-tall building) and a potential 700-foot tower on the Golden Gate University site. If a tower were to proceed on the Palace Hotel site or a tower be proposed on the Golden Gate University site, such project(s) would be subject to project-specific shadow analysis.

There have been recent renovations to the existing hotel, but no mention of plans to proceed with the tower. See this article from July, 2015.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...on-photos.html