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Godzilla · #**60021** Posted **Mar 8, 2023, 12:43 AM**

"Los Angeles Streets at Night. 1949"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ztr1QqOdo

and honorable mention, Oil Wells >>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yobg5SXTFro

Engineeral · #**60022** Posted **Mar 8, 2023, 1:28 AM**

Another cover picture from the August, 1944 Pacific Electric employees' magazine. This one shows the street outside the PE Station at Sixth and Main. Lots of foot traffic. The picture is described in the magazine as follows: COVER PICTURE—Pacific Electric office building and terminal at Sixth and Main, where busses leave the Pacific Electric Station, where Pasadena cars turn north on Main Street, where the Watts-Sierra Vista Line picks up and discharges innumerable passengers, where pedestrians and automobiles are apparently always in a hurry.

Noir_Noir · #**60023** Posted **Mar 8, 2023, 10:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Have anyone heard of the House of Usher in Venice California?

I need an address.

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Originally Posted by HossC

No address yet, but I found the following at www.cointalk.com:

"The Ushers" were Harry and Frances Usher, a pair of entertainers who performed around the United States in the 1920's and 1930's as magicians, mentalists, and psychics. They retired from performing in 1935 and opened their store in Venice, a Pacific Ocean beach front community west of Los Angeles, California. The store operated until around 1950 when Harry Usher passed away.

There's more info and pictures of the coins at the link.

Not sure where it was located in 1932 but 1947 and 1952 directories have House Of Usher at 208 Pier Ave, Ocean Park

rescarta.lapl.org

Harry and Frances Usher in 1940.

geniimagazine.com

When Harry died in 1950, he and the family were living at 860 Chautauqua Blvd in Pacific Palisades.

cdnc.ucr.edu - Daily News (Los Angeles), 30 October 1950

In 1979 another "Harry" purchased the property and has lived there, with some additions, ever since.

ebay.com

urbansplatter.com

ethereal_reality · #**60024** Posted **Mar 8, 2023, 8:33 PM**

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Thanks for figiuring out the address, Noir Noir.

More on the House of Usher.

cointalk

Lots & lots of press! Sorry it isn't clearer.

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ethereal_reality · #**60025** Posted **Mar 9, 2023, 5:29 PM**

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A new mystery location just listed on eBay.

eBay

Whoever took the photograph must have been awfully short or standing in a hole.

A quick search of the thread shows no other mention of Holterhoff on NLA.
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ethereal_reality · #**60026** Posted **Mar 9, 2023, 5:43 PM**

Time lapse.

The patio and garden at the Holterhoff residence.

eBay

This photograph was on the same album page as the photograph in the previous post.
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Martin Pal · #**60027** Posted **Mar 9, 2023, 7:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Godzilla

"Los Angeles Streets at Night. 1949"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ztr1QqOdo

and honorable mention, Oil Wells >>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yobg5SXTFro
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Thanks for these links, very clear footage. You can read many of the signs on the streets; ones we know like the Rosslyn Hotel, Hotel Cecil with neon lines, Gayety Theatre, Maxwell's and Waldorf Cellar, and others I don't recall like Miyako Hotel, Sukiyaki, the Turquoise Room (advertising television in 1949), Club 153 (sounds familiar), Rhapsody, The Harbor and the 3 Star Cafe (that makes me laugh). I like that in some of the footage along the dark streets, the streetcar tracks are lit up by reflected light. Wonder what film these background shots were filmed for?

I notice that those who comment on historic youtube videos of Los Angeles continually remark in the comments how clean it looks/used to be, on film noir footage, no less. Someone even does it on this one, filmed in the dark, although another comment says "you can even see the smog lit up at night." I'd like them to watch the Oil Wells video and wonder if they think the same things? There are a lot of people who record trips along the streets of L.A., Hollywood and such now that one can watch on youtube and those streets look clean, too, so I don't understand that obsession with people making constant comments like that.

HossC · #**60028** Posted **Mar 9, 2023, 9:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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A new mystery location just listed on eBay.

eBay

Whoever took the photograph must have been awfully short or standing in a hole.

A quick search of the thread shows no other mention of Holterhoff on NLA.

1360 West Adams. GW has a better picture and a load of information on his West Adams Boulevard blog.

GaylordWilshire · #**60029** Posted **Mar 10, 2023, 3:18 PM**

A view without the top cut off... if only ER's great find wasn't decapitated.

citywatch · #**60030** Posted **Mar 10, 2023, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Engineeral

Another cover picture from the August, 1944 Pacific Electric employees' magazine. This one shows the street outside the PE Station at Sixth and Main. Lots of foot traffic.

When that bldg, not far from skid row, several yrs ago was converted to apts, I thought the owners would end up with plenty of unleased units. I think it actually filled up rather quickly. Never underestimate human tenacity.

• Video Link

I hate to think of the condition of the PE bldg's roof before this contractor entered the picture....never say never

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https://youtu.be/A2nVJwYoV58

ethereal_reality · #**60031** Posted **Mar 11, 2023, 9:04 PM**

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This interesting slide from the 1950s just turned up on eBay

Does anyone recognize this intersection?

eBay

Are we looking at the back of the Carthay Apartments or was that one-story retail building with the small shops built IN FRONT of the apartment building?

I'd also like to know more about the Tudoresque building and the modern market on the left.

I love the orange truck.
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HossC · #**60032** Posted **Mar 11, 2023, 10:44 PM**

Looking west from near the May Co building at Wilshire & Fairfax. The Carthay Apartments building is still standing, but its sign has gone.

GSV

ethereal_reality · #**60033** Posted **Mar 12, 2023, 3:24 AM**

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I wonder if the Carthay Apartments sign is in storage somewhere. It might be fairly easy to put back up since the old brackets are still on the roof.

Thanks for identifying the location, Hoss....I appreciate it.

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Godzilla · #**60034** Posted **Mar 12, 2023, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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This interesting slide from the 1950s just turned up on eBay

Does anyone recognize this intersection?

eBay

Are we looking at the back of the Carthay Apartments or was that one-story retail building with the small shops built IN FRONT of the apartment building?

I'd also like to know more about the Tudoresque building and the modern market on the left.

I love the orange truck.
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One of many posts touching on this familiar structure. E.g., https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=6274

Carter_Auto_Motive · #**60035** Posted **Mar 13, 2023, 1:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Hello, Carter_Auto_Motive! Gosh, you made quite a contribution right off the bat, using the grainy image of 1109 West Adams
to ID e_r's ebay photo of the same house.

I'm grateful you did, because I was finally able to ID this image, which I've had in my files for a while, as an earlier view of
1109 W. Adams:

Wonderful, glad to help!

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Welcome to NLA, Carter Auto Motive!

That was some impressive sleuthing.

Nah. We're not that picky and your first post was pretty much. .um. . perfect.

Glad to have you aboard.

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Thanks for the welcome, and thank you for starting this wonderful thread!

This picture was recently making the rounds, sounds like maybe Facebook initially based on the caption attached here. Was the March 1951 Hot Rod Magazine cover picture as well.

Link to thread at jalopyjournal.com where I saw the picture posted today.

And a link to a thread about the Mines Field road race that this parade of cars was soon to run.

Carter_Auto_Motive · #**60036** Posted **Mar 13, 2023, 3:06 AM**

I also wanted to jump back real quick to an e_r post from a few months back.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Here's another auditorium-like building that was recently posted on eBay. (sold)

eBay

Hmm. . .so was the area around Figueroa and 53rd St. home to a Greek enclave in past?

update:

I just checked Figueroa and 53rd St. and I'm pretty sure it's gone. It was either replaced by a giant seashell, a parking lot or it's now an empty lot.

Check the area out for yourself here.

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I left e_r's pictures intact, since the post was some time ago.
I believe this is 502 W 53rd. The photographer is standing on W 53rd facing South with S Figueroa to their left. So, it would indeed be a part of the property with the giant seashell on it, which is still a church. There have been numerous religious organizations at the location for many years in the CDs.

Anyhow, the reason that particular location caught my interest is that it just so happens to be across the street from one of the locations I've been researching. I'll get to that eventually, but here's a pic from a little further west on W 53rd looking back towards S Figueroa. The building in question is on the right hand side of the picture in the background, partially obscured by the utility pole. The unique front and roof shape is just visible.

Picture cropped from Revs Institute Library

Bristolian · #**60037** Posted **Mar 13, 2023, 3:52 AM**

I was driving through Baldwin Park today and noticed this interesting and stately looking building at 14362 Ramona Bl.

With this detail:

It is just across the street from the current civic center and I'm wondering with the scales of justice cast in relief, could this be the former courthouse?
A real estate site has a build date of 1926.

Edit: Viewing from Ramona Bl. certainly makes one think it is a rectangular box but it is actually built to fit the angles of the intersection and alley/parking behind.

GaylordWilshire · #**60038** Posted **Mar 13, 2023, 1:08 PM**

Dated Aug 19, 1951

BofA covering up the scales with its sign. Given the scales it might seem as if the building was a court building, or law offices...but seems it was built as the First National Bank of Baldwin Park, its address then being 102 W El Monte

LAT May 21, 1927

The library's card covers most of it, but here it is in the 1931 BP city directory:

Carter_Auto_Motive · #**60039** Posted **Mar 13, 2023, 2:42 PM**

1932 labelled picture:

From this Baldwin Park book by Bob Benbow, Lorraine O'Brien, Baldwin Park Historical Society · 2011

And a cropped version showing a little more detail maybe.

Bristolian · #**60040** Posted **Mar 13, 2023, 4:12 PM**

Thanks guys. It was obvious the building had a real story. It's amazing what you can stumble across when stopped at a red light.

GaylordWishire's abilities are well known here and although Carter is brand new, he is showing some real skills right from the start. I sense a ringer.