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SHoP Architects’ “Stairway To Heaven” Nears Pinnacle At 111 West 57th Street, Atop Billionaire’s Row

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111 West 57th Street is nearing the upper section of its topmost residential and mechanical floors. With a height to width ratio of 24:1, the SHoP Architects-designed tower will soon become the most slender building in the world. It is the 2nd-tallest skyscraper under construction in New York City, and will soon climb to an 1,438-foot-high pinnacle between Sixth and Seventh Avenues. The supertall is being developed by JDS Development and Property Markets Group, and Douglas Elliman is in charge of sales and marketing for the 46 condominiums within.

111 West 57th Street has already surpassed 220 Central Park South and One57, and will also soon climb past 432 Park Avenue’s 1,396 foot tall roof parapet. The tower may not be the tallest of the 57th Street giants when finished, but the position of its footprint offers a nearly perfect symmetrical viewpoint of Central Park, the Upper East Side, and the Upper West Side. The views looking south are also just as impressive, with the bold and striking architecture of 53 West 53rd Street featuring several streets to the south, while One World Trade Center and the rest of Lower Manhattan rise at the tip of the island.

Residents will have floor-to-ceiling height windows on the northern and southern elevations, while narrow windows are disguised amongst the eastern and western facades. The warm-colored and reflective terracotta panels and curved copper finishes catch the sun and shimmer in diagonal waves of reflected light. This is best seen when looking from the corners of the tower in the late morning and afternoon. Each panel is formed and shaped with an undulating and rhythmic wave of lines that vertically run the full height of the skyscraper.

The supertall is expected to top out this winter, by 2019. The residential units will begin closings next year, while move-ins are predicted to start by the first quarter of 2020.
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How many elevators does this building have? No matter how small the elevators are, they have to take up a fair amount of space. How much space is left for the apartments? IMO it doesn't make economic sense to build such a slender 1400+ footer.

I haven't been following this thread, so I apologize if this has been discussed before.
     
     
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Well I've thought from the beginning that they shouldn't have pursued a tower until they had purchased the parcels on the west side of Steinway. This would have provided the ability to construct a tower 2.5 times as wide on the CPS face, thus a more profitable and less jarringly slender tower.
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Well I've thought from the beginning that they shouldn't have pursued a tower until they had purchased the parcels on the west side of Steinway. This would have provided the ability to construct a tower 2.5 times as wide on the CPS face, thus a more profitable and less jarringly slender tower.
The site to the immediate west is landmarked, and the lots just to the west are owned by Extell, a rival to JDS, so highly improbable. Extell plans its own tower there.
     
     
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How many elevators does this building have? No matter how small the elevators are, they have to take up a fair amount of space. How much space is left for the apartments? IMO it doesn't make economic sense to build such a slender 1400+ footer.

Well, you really should have been following this tower. You'd know that not to be the case.

https://www.elliman.com/new-york-cit...reet-manhattan

https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/midto...h-street/55221




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Well, you really should have been following this tower. You'd know that not to be the case.

https://www.elliman.com/new-york-cit...reet-manhattan

https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/midto...h-street/55221
Thanks for the links. The units are larger than I expected, and they will likely be lucrative. But my point was that if this building were larger, then more apartments could be built, so the project could be even more lucrative. The downside is that it probably would no longer be "the world's most slender supertall", so this building would be less unique and thus less interesting to potential buyers.
     
     
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The site to the immediate west is landmarked, and the lots just to the west are owned by Extell, a rival to JDS, so highly improbable. Extell plans its own tower there.
Your saying these two "gems" are owned by Extell? https://goo.gl/maps/QytASiHqNo22
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Thanks for the links. The units are larger than I expected, and they will likely be lucrative. But my point was that if this building were larger, then more apartments could be built, so the project could be even more lucrative. The downside is that it probably would no longer be "the world's most slender supertall", so this building would be less unique and thus less interesting to potential buyers.

Keep in mind that this tower was originally planned as a smaller tower before it was combined with the Steinway building. And they still have ultra luxury units to sell, in an area that is seeing a lot of them. A larger tower might not have necessarily been built.
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Your saying these two "gems" are owned by Extell? https://goo.gl/maps/QytASiHqNo22
No, but Extell owns the large building two sites to the west. The two tenements you're referencing are already part of the 111 W57 assemblage (the air rights are being used).

If you bought/demolished these buildings, it wouldn't do anything for 111. Those buildings don't touch the tower portion of the property, and they have no additional rights. You could replace with a lowrise retail box or something, but nothing tall.
     
     
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Sorry to go off topic, but when did One 57's crown start being lit at night?? I was really surprised to see this considering how long the tower has been complete. It also looks really bright.
     
     
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Thanks for the links. The units are larger than I expected, and they will likely be lucrative. But my point was that if this building were larger, then more apartments could be built, so the project could be even more lucrative. The downside is that it probably would no longer be "the world's most slender supertall", so this building would be less unique and thus less interesting to potential buyers.
The units are massive. The "great room" facing Central Park that many units have is over 50 ft long.
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Sorry to go off topic, but when did One 57's crown start being lit at night?? I was really surprised to see this considering how long the tower has been complete. It also looks really bright.
They've been testing it for a few months. It kept coming on and back off, and it can even do transitions and wavy effects. Hopefully they're done testing it
     
     
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Sorry to go off topic, but when did One 57's crown start being lit at night?? I was really surprised to see this considering how long the tower has been complete. It also looks really bright.
Here's a cool vid, more images in the One57 thread...

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Thanks guys for explaining why this building's small footprint is not economically disadvantageous. I just thought of another plausible explanation why all these supertalls near Central Park are so skinny. As has been mentioned ad nauseam, there are concerns about them casting shadows over the park. Is it possible that had these buildings been not only supertall but also significantly wider, they would have had an even harder time getting approved?
     
     
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