Pinecrest-Queensway Secondary Plan

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[Lakeofthewood]

Looks awesome. All for breaking up these large parking lots for commercial and industrial sites within the Greenbelt. And especially if we're going to increase connectivity and filtration for other users. Approve it!

[Williamoforange]

Originally Posted by Lakeofthewood

Looks awesome. All for breaking up these large parking lots for commercial and industrial sites within the Greenbelt. And especially if we're going to increase connectivity and filtration for other users. Approve it!

Its not bad, but also not great, Staff still seem to prefer to Defer to low-rise as being the "best" built form for the area giving it standing above all else. As they reduce height limits of minor corridors from 6 to 4 due to the fact 6 stories are too close to low-rise.

Its incredibly out of touch thinking, but unsurprising from planning in Ottawa, and Kavanaugh nor Cullen are going to call it out, considering that's also there preference.

Stack this with a bunch of other city regs like low-rise guidelines, that further Defer to SFH being the preferred built form, the SDP looks to make it difficult to actually build the missing middle or Mid-rise in this area.

[Multi-modal]

Originally Posted by Williamoforange

Its not bad, but also not great, Staff still seem to prefer to Defer to low-rise as being the "best" built form for the area giving it standing above all else. As they reduce height limits of minor corridors from 6 to 4 due to the fact 6 stories are too close to low-rise.

Its incredibly out of touch thinking, but unsurprising from planning in Ottawa, and Kavanaugh nor Cullen are going to call it out, considering that's also there preference.

Stack this with a bunch of other city regs like low-rise guidelines, that further Defer to SFH being the preferred built form, the SDP looks to make it difficult to actually build the missing middle or Mid-rise in this area.

I agree. I like the plan overall, but the reduction in height limits (compared to the Official Plan) along the minor corridors of Iris and Pinecrest is embarrassing. The same thing is proposed along Carling Avenue as part of the Lincoln Fields Secondary Plan. It seems like some of the planners can't bring themselves to accept Council direction on height limits along minor (and mainstreet) corridors. They are out of touch, like you say.

[J.OT13]

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[Lakeofthewood]

Originally Posted by Multi-modal

I agree. I like the plan overall, but the reduction in height limits (compared to the Official Plan) along the minor corridors of Iris and Pinecrest is embarrassing. The same thing is proposed along Carling Avenue as part of the Lincoln Fields Secondary Plan. It seems like some of the planners can't bring themselves to accept Council direction on height limits along minor (and mainstreet) corridors. They are out of touch, like you say.

Ouf, hadn't taken the time to check the height limits. Didn't even think they wouldn't max it out here - really disappointing if that's the case

[J.OT13]

I'm dumbfounded that the max height limit on this secondary plan and that of LF is 40 floors. 40 is the new 27. Why? Why do we have to set a height limit? Where we allow the 40, might as well leave it to developers to decide how high they want to go.

[OTownandDown]

Is there some random issue with Ottawa we don't know about? Water pressure? Limited oxygen in the upper atmosphere? Reindeer collision avoidance? Maybe after 40 stories you can see over the Ikea into that one lady's window who moved here from Toronto and has PTSD from tall towers?

Once you're at 40 stories here, you're casting shadows all over the place anyways. Why is there a limit? Karen's imaginary additional trrrrraaaafic coming out of the parking garage all day?

Expanded window washing industry with high-rescue and high-access experts aside... restricting to 40 here especially doesn't make sense.

[DTcrawler]

I think Ottawa’s natural inclination to put limits on things is done out of fear. If we don’t put a 40 story limit in the plan we might wake up one day to Burj Khalifa’s all over the place. Just like how we made the e-scooter companies speed-limit their scooters so they didn’t accidentally become *too* convenient.