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nocturne · #**44201** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Yes, I'm dissing the design in the image above. I'm really tiring of the half-assed nod to the historic vernacular. Those facades have no depth, no character, they look exactly like what they are - faux-historical wallpaper pasted onto a monolithic structure behind it. If these lots were developed independently in a fine grained manner, my criticism of the architecture would be slightly less. But there is absolutley no honesty in what you see there. An not only no honesty, no character, a phony facsmile if i've ever seen one. There's an ethos I wish all practicing architects would live by... If you want to do neo- this or that and design an actual revival structure, you need to have the budget to do that. If you don't have the budget to do that, do something different.

Preach. I'm getting so fed up with these half-baked "historical" streetwalls with fifty different brick colors (not to mention the current trend of breaking up perfectly nice facades to mimic the appearance of density). If it's a low cost structure, just keep it simple. There's no shame in honesty.

harryc · #**44202** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 9:28 PM**

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Vlajos · #**44203** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by JK47

Dude re-read his post. He said if you don't have the budget to execute the style you're designing then don't do it at all. Half-assing a particular architectural style just results in a terrible product. Instead, focus on developing a design that can be executed well using the budget that you have.

I did, it makes no sense in terms of affordable housing development. Again, have you ever worked on an affordable housing development? Have you ever put together a sources and uses and a pro forma operating budget?

Vlajos · #**44204** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 9:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by mark0

How are they not honest? The materials are what they are and do what they do, they keep out the weather and arranged in a logical manner with headers spanning openings, metal clad bays and some sort of cornice that caps the wall assembly. This isnt trying to be an Italinate or Queen Ann revival, it's just trying to be good infill, which I think it achieves and is sorely needed in this part of town. Would I like to see more depth? Yes, but it's not feasible. The only thing that would be more "honest" than this would be to skin the framing in liner panel and oh joy, a giant paneled warehouse is what we'd all get to look at. And even then, to it right, may not even be a savings in panel.

Exactly, it's simply more bullshit from the typical posters that have no clue about finance or real estate. This looks totally fine for what it is. In a part of town that people should be ecstatic to see getting investment.

harryc · #**44205** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 10:03 PM**

After a week of testing - with 2 different rigs - on the parking lot (ex lawn) up top, they moved down to lower Carol last week.

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mark0 · #**44206** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 10:28 PM**

You know what they are drilling for? That r.o.w features in the proposed downtown circulator plans.

harryc · #**44207** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 10:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by mark0

You know what they are drilling for? That r.o.w features in the proposed downtown circulator plans.

330 N Clark - it will cantilever out over the ROW.

maru2501 · #**44208** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 10:35 PM**

starting to worry about the Sears base. I feel it could be losing architectural honesty with the street

harryc · #**44209** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 12:30 AM**

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the urban politician · #**44210** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 12:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by harryc

After a week of testing - with 2 different rigs - on the parking lot (ex lawn) up top, they moved down to lower Carol last week.

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The fact that this project appears to be moving forward really gets me excited

I love that it will cantilever over Carrol Ave, which may or may not some way have a transitway. And I love submerged transit infrastructure...

the urban politician · #**44211** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 12:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by maru2501

starting to worry about the Sears base. I feel it could be losing architectural honesty with the street

Yeah, like it honestly won’t suck any more?

gandalf612 · #**44212** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 5:22 AM**

Not sure whether this qualifies as Highrise so I’m putting it here. Passed it on the way to check for any movement at OCS (sadly not yet)

March 8, 2019 by Tomasz Wojtasik

Fvn · #**44213** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 6:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by gandalf612

Not sure whether this qualifies as Highrise so I’m putting it here. Passed it on the way to check for any movement at OCS (sadly not yet)

March 8, 2019 by Tomasz Wojtasik

IIRC anything greater than 13 floors goes in Highrise thread, great photo though.

Give OCS another week or 2

really love the way that building is turning out. adds great contrast to all the stone nearby

the urban politician · #**44214** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 1:42 PM**

Yep, this is a great piece of infill.

Gosh I can’t stand that POS Mormon church next door

marothisu · #**44215** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 1:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Yep, this is a great piece of infill.

Gosh I can’t stand that POS Mormon church next door

Well, at least that block is a bit better than it was a few years ago:

August 2015:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8979...7i13312!8i6656

June 2018:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8979...7i16384!8i8192

I guess you'll have to just imagine the high rise in the last one. $50 says Harryc has 2 pictures from this angle, one from 2015 and the other from yesterday showing the high rise that Google doesn't have in their streetview.

the urban politician · #**44216** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 1:56 PM**

^ Yep the block is way way better today, no argument to that.

The Mormon scam operation gets its property taxes waived there, though, so expect their cheap shitbox to sit there for a very, very long time

harryc · #**44217** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

Well, at least that block is a bit better than it was a few years ago:

August 2015:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8979...7i13312!8i6656

June 2018:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8979...7i16384!8i8192

I guess you'll have to just imagine the high rise in the last one. $50 says Harryc has 2 pictures from this angle, one from 2015 and the other from yesterday showing the high rise that Google doesn't have in their streetview.

2015
close - looking SE from 1/2 blk W , the mimimalist ode to the last boom was removed to make the townhomes, the church and tower will go in behind it from this angel. 833 Will rise on the left of this frame.

Chicago by Harry Carmichael, on Flickr

maru2501 · #**44218** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 2:20 PM**

someone is going to have a very good view of that steeple

AMWChicago · #**44219** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 11:02 PM**

Was walking down Wabash yesterday and snapped a pic of this. Can't possibly be for this site could it? I know there was rumblings about it recently, but there are still cars parked in the lot

So what's the deal? Is it for a nearby project like Renelle or Tribune renovation? Or are they lifting something onto a nearby building's roof? I know there may not be an answer, but I had to put this picture somewhere lol

IMG_7331 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/157979292@N05/]

harryc · #**44220** Posted **Mar 10, 2019, 12:46 AM**

March 4

Installing new chillers it appears