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Old Posted Feb 13, 2024, 2:24 PM
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It's so arbitrary as to be foolish. Maybe the French are onto something by making racial-ethnic tracking illegal. I don't think it's legal in France to track people by religion either. The Anglosphere's fixation on group identity is insane IMO.
Not saying there is no racism in France but it's noteworthy that AFAIK 23 and me and Ancestry are not allowed to operate with personal DNA testing in that country.
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Yeah. This works perfectly in France. Because race isn't tracked there isn't racism in France.

Not acknowledging race in a world where there is real prejudice is effectively a tool of white supremacy.

But go off.
I think the French are closer to right on this, even if they aren't perfect. Tracking ethnic data has a tendency to be abused. Among other things, France is sensitive to what happened to Jews in WW2, and how tracking religious identity made it easy for the Nazis to single out Jews in all of the countries they invaded. And it was just as abused over here. Tracking ethnicity in the Americas (including French possessions) began as a system to track slave populations. After slavery, it was used to perpetuate all types of discrimination by the government against non-whites.
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I think the French are closer to right on this, even if they aren't perfect. Tracking ethnic data has a tendency to be abused. Among other things, France is sensitive to what happened to Jews in WW2, and how tracking religious identity made it easy for the Nazis to single out Jews in all of the countries they invaded. And it was just as abused over here. Tracking ethnicity in the Americas (including French possessions) began as a system to track slave populations. After slavery, it was used to perpetuate all types of discrimination by the government against non-whites.
The highlighted is a good point. Just because the road is very bumpy doesn't necessarily mean the road you've chosen is the wrong one.
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The highlighted is a good point. Just because the road is very bumpy doesn't necessarily mean the road you've chosen is the wrong one.
definitely agree. family country of origin is better and would seem enough.

not allowing dna testing is silly though.

but then again the french are silly.
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definitely agree. family country of origin is better and would seem enough.

not allowing dna testing is silly though.

but then again the french are silly.
It's a bit obsessive and over the top I agree, but "they" can "do them".
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