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Old Posted Nov 9, 2014, 1:36 PM
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CLEVELAND, Ohio – Developer Robert Stark wowed the city's planning commission Friday morning, easily winning unanimous conceptual approval for a proposed, $250-million to $350-million development he calls nuCLEus that could transform a moribund part of downtown near the Gateway sports complex. The commission voted 6-0 to approve Stark's early diagrammatic plan and a proposal for tax increment financing in which the city would allow the non-school portion of increased real estate tax revenue from the project to help finance project debt.

The nuCLEus project - whose name is a play on the idea of the central role it intends to play downtown - would be located primarily on two blocks sandwiched by Prospect Avenue and Huron Road, just north of the Q and east of East 4th Street. It would encompass 120,000 to 140,000 square feet of retail, a 150- to 200-room hotel, 200,000 square feet of office space, 500 residential units and 1,500 to 1,600 parking spaces in garage levels stacked above street-level restaurants and stores.

More at: http://www.cleveland.com/architectur...leus_proj.html
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2014, 5:09 PM
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Is this big news? I feel like this is big news. Actually sounds ver similar to a project that is getting underway here in Philly.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2014, 8:18 PM
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Yes, but as I'm a optimistic realist, I'm waiting to see tower cranes in the air before I get too excited. This project is proposed by a developer who had planned another project downtown but that eventually fell through. One huge difference with this project is that they actually own the site in question, and of course downtown Cleveland is seeing more reinvestment than ever. Rumor has it that they're leaning toward NBBJ as the lead architecture firm, so I'm curious to see the next set of renderings.
     
     
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It sounds like a great project. It can be tough to make mixed uses work (uses sometimes work against each other, complicated financing, etc.) but the volume and mix of stuff would translate to a good steady activity level. I'd certainly live in a place like that, though not near the hotel entry since they often have taxi whistles.

I wish they'd do it with about 1,000 parking spaces though -- maybe 300 for housing (separate of course), 200 reserved for offices with all-day pricing, 60 for hotel, the rest priced by hour for retail and the others.
     
     
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Great news!

I think that a lot of the "Rust Belt " cities are diamonds that need to be dusted off. Places like Cleveland, Mileaukee, Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo have stunning old buildings and great cultural institutions. No offense to Sun Belt cities, but Cleveland, et al are way better than Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, Raleigh, etc.
     
     
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NICE!

This looks like it could be a fantastic mixed use development for cleveland. Can't wait to see more.
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2015, 11:53 AM
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Yeah, I'm surprised at the jump in the height from the massing models - overall I like the design but I want to see what they have in mind for the shorter building. Also I think the skybridge looks great where it connects with the taller building but not so much on the shorter building. Still, keeping my cautious optimism on this one
     
     
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Dang good for Cleveland! Not to keen on the design.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2015, 2:38 PM
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well hot damn! this looks freaking fantastic!
















source: http://www.cleveland.com/business/in...l#incart_river
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That's some badassery right there.
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Holy shit!!!! Yes! Go Cleveland!!
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I really hope this is built. I love it and I love Cleveland!
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Finally a new tower being proposed which has the potential to make a significant impact on the appearance of the skyline. The design is very unique and bold which I like.
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awesome, very modern
     
     
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Nice renders. I hope it happens.
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Very nice looking proposal.
     
     
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Really don't see this working in Cleveland. New York or LA yes. This is way to out of the box for a Midwestern city. Good luck though!
     
     
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Really don't see this working in Cleveland. New York or LA yes. This is way to out of the box for a Midwestern city. Good luck though!
That's the biggest, most ignorant and heinous piece of bullshit ever.
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