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It is a real shame that the famous view of the ESB from DUMBO will be obliterated by the West Tower of this site. It would have been better to move the floor space to a taller, fatter East Tower.
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It is a real shame that the famous view of the ESB from DUMBO will be obliterated by the West Tower of this site. It would have been better to move the floor space to a taller, fatter East Tower.
Meh. Only tourists go there for that angled view ( if you talk the stair exit off the Brooklyn Bridge, you can’t miss it ). But there are views of the ESB all around, even as the building itself becomes less relevant on the skyline. The view of the Bridge itself is what’s more important there though.



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These towers look pretty good. Will be nice to see them rise, filling out the Two Bridges skyline.
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Looks like one of these towers will (or could be) a little taller...


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Nice. Looks like a slight height bump.

The East River skyline will be pretty dramatic in a few years.
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Nice. Looks like a slight height bump.

The East River skyline will be pretty dramatic in a few years.

Although not the tallest, these two are the only two that aren't "boxy", and will be a nice element to the skyline in that area.
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I'm so sick of these people. Stop wasting the courts time!



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Lower East Side, Chinatown residents sue to stop tower developments based on ‘Green Amendment’





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With the lawsuit, Lower East Side and Chinatown residents are attempting to block the construction of the Two Bridges Project, put forth by Cherry Street Owner LLC, Two Bridges Senior Apartments, L.P., Two Bridges Associates, L.P., and LE1 SUB LLC, which includes an 80-story tower at 247 Cherry St., two towers of 69-stories and 62-stories at 260 South St., and a 63-story tower at 259 Clinton St.

The suit argues that construction at this scale violates the “Green Amendment,” which New Yorkers approved last November. The amendment guarantees each person’s right “to clean air and water, and a healthful environment,” and the lawsuit is the first time the “Green Amendment” has been used to stop the construction of a “mega project.”
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The Lower East Side was once “home” to countless automobile repair shops and gas stations, resulting in oil spills and soil and groundwater contamination. The 9/11 attacks greatly impacted Chinatown and the Lower East Side due to their close proximity to the toxic cloud of dust and fumes resulting from the World Trade Center’s collapse.

“In recent years, the rates of emergency room visits due to asthma has more than doubled that of other neighborhoods in Lower Manhattan,” Li said. “The air pollution that comes from this construction will further exacerbate all of the respiratory illnesses that residents in this community have already been suffering as a result of 911 and the pandemic.”

Barbara Kempe, a resident of Two Bridges for 22 years and a plaintiff, shared that the construction of the Extell Tower, an 800-foot skyscraper on the Lower East Side, exacerbated her asthma because of the increased levels of soot and dust.

Sure, lets just throw in 9/11 and the pandemic. The next lawsuit will be because these towers don't provide enough shade. Ridiculous.

Meanwhile, developers are gonna keep building...



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NYC’s biggest condo developments are top-sellers




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October 24, 202


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In a tightening market where some new developments are lucky to sign one deal every four weeks, the city’s biggest condos are finding multiple buyers per month. In fact, mega condos like One Manhattan Square and Skyline Tower that have 400 to 800+ units are selling a lot faster than most people realize. Is it strength in numbers? Is it the outsize amenity packages? Likely both.

Just look at Skyline Tower in Long Island City. Soaring 61-stories with architecture by Hill West, the 801-unit condo is 67% sold and averaging 9.4 monthly sales over the past year, based on Marketproof’s sales velocity analysis. It was the top-selling project in 2021. If sales continue at this pace, Skyline Tower could sell out by this time next year.

At One Manhattan Square in Two Bridges, developer Extell has signed 55% of 814 units, the equivalent of selling out multiple boutique buildings. The 81-story tower has 100,000 square feet of amenities includings the city’s largest private outdoor space. They’re averaging 6.4 sales a month.
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“We are in the rare position of offering buildings in Manhattan and Brooklyn that feature thoughtfully-designed residences, significant amenities, immediate occupancy, and perhaps most importantly, very favorable tax abatements,” said Ari Goldstein, Senior Vice President of Development at Extell Development Company, adding that rising rates make abatements more appealing. “One Manhattan Square and Brooklyn Point raised the bar for luxury living in the Lower East Side and Downtown Brooklyn, respectively; and savvy buyers continue to recognize the financial benefits of purchasing in these buildings.”

Also on this list is 11 Hoyt, which is nearing 80% sold for its 479 units. The Downtown Brooklyn project has been averaging 7.7 monthly contracts, which makes sense because it has been the top-selling building in Brooklyn for three consecutive years.
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Gotta love the fact that their signs keep referencing “displacement,” as if building on a parking lot is going to magically turn these people’s rent-controlled public housing units into privately owned luxury buildings. I can’t wait for this lawsuit to get tossed out—at this point the developers should counter-sue over the delays they’ve caused, negative PR be damned. I know I would.
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^ It’s ridiculous at this point.


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The funny thing is, they still would have the right to, whatever that means. Lawyers should be ashamed for working this on those ridiculous grounds. But this being New York, it wouldn’t shock me if some crazy judge agreed with them, and the lawsuits dragged on for a couple more years.
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Looks like one of these towers will (or could be) a little taller...

Nice, stick it to the NIMBYs.

Do they have any say at all? I'm hoping these and the supertall begin ASAP.
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Nice, stick it to the NIMBYs.

Do they have any say at all? I'm hoping these and the supertall begin ASAP.
No. This was already approved, and excavation began. Anyone can file a lawsuit. Doesn’t mean anything.
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State Constitution Evoked in Lawsuit Against Two Bridges Mega-Development


By Julianne Cuba
Nov 22, 2022


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A controversial development that has been tied up in court for more than six years ago is now facing yet another lawsuit from residents of the Lower East Side and Chinatown — this time arguing that the Two Bridges mega-project will infringe upon the new constitutional right to clean air and water in a low-income community of color that already suffers from high rates of asthma.

The latest lawsuit was filed last month by the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund on behalf of 12 plaintiffs from the Lower East Side and Chinatown, and Council Member Christopher Marte, who represents the area.

Marte says his constituents face enough pollution and exhaust from the FDR Drive, and that construction of the planned towers along the East River would result in more fumes, while also unearthing toxic chemicals from old petroleum tanks that sit under one of the development lots.
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Just one year ago, environmental attorneys and activists pushed hard for Proposition 2 — also known as the Green Amendment — on the November ballot, arguing that it would give New Yorkers legal standing to stop the environmental harms caused by highway expansions or the placement of waste transfer stations. The referendum passed overwhelmingly, supported by 69 percent of state voters.

For many, the purpose was obvious: stop environmental degradation.

“Say there was a defined pollution hotspot with a heavy volume of diesel-truck traffic — the community could petition to the City Council to ask for relief,” Peter Iwanowicz, executive director of Environmental Advocates NY, told Streetsblog at the time. “The government would then have to weigh [the] individual right to breathe air that doesn’t cut lives short or make people sick. If they ignore the plea, people can say, ‘I’m taking you to court. I think you’re violating my right to clean air.’”

The lawsuit against the Two Bridges project is the first in the five boroughs to cite the green amendment, though others have already been filed upstate, including against the permitting of a waste transfer station in upstate Cayuta.
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Similar green amendments exist now only in Pennsylvania and Montana, but there’s been no parallel suit against a development project in those states, according to Maya van Rossum, founder of the Pennsylvania-based Green Amendments For The Generations, which helped write and pass New York’s law.

As such, there’s no way to know if courts will rule against urban development — which by definition is far more polluting than, say, an open field of trees — or rule in favor of urban development on the grounds that dense housing with limited parking is far better for the environment than suburban sprawl, over which there is very little environmental oversight.
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But others are pushing back, saying the lawsuit is part of a kitchen-sink effort to defeat an affordable housing project and, worse, could set a dangerous precedent for other much-needed projects. And as feared, that it’s a perversion of the amendment by NIMBYs who are not invoking it in good faith.

Similar tactics have been used to stop the 14th Street busway, congestion pricing, and the city’s open restaurants program, whose critics argued that they would be worse for congestion and the environment.
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Currently, the Two Bridges project includes 69- and 62-story towers that will connect to one another via a lobby at 260 South St., which is owned by Chetrit Group; a 63-story tower at 259 Clinton St., which is owned by Starrett Corporation; and an 80-story tower at 247 Cherry St., which is owned by JDS. Those projects would join an existing 80-story tower at 225 Cherry St. that was built in 2019. It will include a total of about 2,775 new units, roughly 25 percent of which, or 694, would be so-called affordable, including 200 units set aside specifically for low-income senior housing. It would also include new amenities like community facility space, retail, outdoor space, according to the project documents.

The fight to kill Two Bridges has snaked its way through the court system for several years on other legal grounds related to the city’s zoning requirements; and now, it is now before the Manhattan Supreme Court due to the green amendment suit.
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The dozen plaintiffs claim in the 34-page suit that the construction and resulting new buildings will infringe on their right to clean air and water because it will eliminate some parking spaces, and add density and traffic.

“Available parking will be diminished, and vehicular traffic increased causing adverse impacts to air quality that must be evaluated in accordance with the constitutional amendment,” the lawsuit says.

It’s true that the number of available parking spots relative to the number of new units will be reduced, resulting in a so-called parking shortfall, according to project documents — no new spots will be created as part of the project and the 103 that currently exist on a surface-level parking lot on one of the development sites will be relocated to a below-ground facility in the proposed building. The plan as approved in 2018 includes 186 total spaces, according to the Department of City Planning.

But in dense neighborhoods like lower Manhattan — and specifically in Marte’s districts, where 80 percent of households do not own a car, according to city data — the city is actively encouraging transit-oriented development.

“A parking shortfall resulting from a project located in Manhattan does not constitute a significant adverse parking impact, due to the magnitude of available alternative modes of transportation,” according to the 2018 environmental impact statement on the project.

A spokesperson for the city’s Law Department says “the case is under review,” and the developers did not respond to requests for comment.
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Well if all they have is the parking concerns I imagine this will be thrown out. Or just an easy win.
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Manhattan Judge Tosses ‘Green Amendment’ Lawsuit Against Two Bridges Mega-Development





By Julianne Cuba
May 11, 2023


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A Manhattan judge has tossed out a lawsuit attempting to stop a Lower Manhattan development on the grounds that it would infringe upon New Yorkers’ new constitutional right to clean air and water — the first-ever decision in a New York City case involving the so-called “green amendment.”

The lawsuit against the Two Bridges complex claimed that the development and construction process would violate residents’ new constitutional right to clean air and water because it would eliminate some parking spaces, and add density and traffic, especially in a low-income community of color that already suffers from high rates of asthma.

But Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arlene Bluth, in her April 17 decision, wrote that some of what plaintiffs fear is not actually a violation of their constitutional rights, but just a part of living in the Big Apple. She also added that it’s a good thing that the development would reduce parking, hopefully encouraging more public transit use.

“The complaint … contains varying alleged harms, some of which are simply part of living in Manhattan,” wrote Bluth. “Plaintiffs complain about a lack of parking (which may actually encourage the use of public transportation although plaintiffs apparently claim it will lead to increased driving, possibly while looking for a spot) before complaining about increased carbon dioxide emissions.”
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The case — which was filed in October by the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund on behalf of 12 plaintiffs and the local Council Member Christopher Marte — was the latest in a string of lawsuits against the controversial project, which includes towers of 80, 69 and 62 stories next to an existing 80-story tower at 225 Cherry St. The development comprises about 2,775 new units, roughly 25 percent of which, or 694, would be priced below market rate, including 200 units set aside specifically for low-income senior housing. It would also include new amenities like community facility space, retail, outdoor space, according to the project documents.

The development has snaked its way through the legal system for more than six years, and each time, the courts have ruled in favor of the developers. Bluth’s main contention against the lawsuit, referring to it as “yet another ‘bite at the apple,’” was that the courts have already decided the project’s fate after going through the lengthy environmental review process known as the State Environmental Quality Review Act, or SEQR, more than four years ago, and that nothing in its blueprint has changed significantly enough to warrant a new analysis.
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Regardless of the fact that Bluth did not rule on the merits, she strongly expressed her individual opinion on the inappropriateness of using the green amendment to stop a dense urban development. And she said she “hesitates to create a brand-new route to challenge developments on an environmental basis, which is exactly what plaintiffs’ action would entail.”

Her dismissal also echoed the concerns of affordable housing advocates who feared that the lawsuit, if won, could set a dangerous precedent for stopping other much-needed development projects.

She also argued that the amendment was primarily written to give New Yorkers the legal standing to stop environmental harms caused by projects like waste transfer stations and toxic landfills, not housing.

“The construction of these buildings does not evince the same sort of environmental concerns that might accompany, for example, a landfill or toxic waste site,” Bluth said.
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