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Plans For $400-billion New City In The American Desert Unveiled

Plans For $400-billion New City In The American Desert Unveiled


6th September 2021

By Oscar Holland

Read More: https://www.cnn.com/style/article/te...ity/index.html

Website: https://cityoftelosa.com/

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The cleanliness of Tokyo, the diversity of New York and the social services of Stockholm: Billionaire Marc Lore has outlined his vision for a 5-million-person "new city in America" and appointed a world-famous architect to design it. Now, he just needs somewhere to build it -- and $400 billion in funding.

- The former Walmart executive last week unveiled plans for Telosa, a sustainable metropolis that he hopes to create, from scratch, in the American desert. The ambitious 150,000-acre proposal promises eco-friendly architecture, sustainable energy production and a purportedly drought-resistant water system. A so-called "15-minute city design" will allow residents to access their workplaces, schools and amenities within a quarter-hour commute of their homes. Although planners are still scouting for locations, possible targets include Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Arizona, Texas and the Appalachian region, according to the project's official website.

- The announcement was accompanied by a series of digital renderings by Bjarke Ingels Group (BIG), the architecture firm hired to bring Lore's utopian dream to life. The images show residential buildings covered with greenery and imagined residents enjoying abundant open space. With fossil-fuel-powered vehicles banned in the city, autonomous vehicles are pictured traveling down sun-lit streets alongside scooters and pedestrians. Another image depicts a proposed skyscraper, dubbed Equitism Tower, which is described as "a beacon for the city." The building features elevated water storage, aeroponic farms and an energy-producing photovoltaic roof that allow it to "share and distribute all it produces."

- The first phase of construction, which would accommodate 50,000 residents across 1,500 acres, comes with an estimated cost of $25 billion. The whole project would be expected to exceed $400 billion, with the city reaching its target population of 5 million within 40 years. Funding will come from "various sources," project organizers said, including private investors, philanthropists, federal and state grants, and economic development subsidies. Planners hope to approach state officials "very soon," with a view to welcoming the first residents by 2030. In addition to innovative urban design, the project also promises transparent governance and what it calls a "new model for society.

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You guys are laughing now but Jacksonville will soon assume its rightful place as the largest and most important city on Earth.

I heard the UN is moving its HQ there. The eiffel tower is moving there soon as well. Elon Musk even decided he didnt want to go to mars anymore after visiting.
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It would be more sustainable to reuse and improve what we already have.

As for the "new city" concept in general...huge amount of chicken and egg hurdles.

And wouldn't any suitable spot already be occupied, maybe by small towns and farmland?
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It will be built: as a 10,000 people new neighbourhood at Phoenix outskirts. Cutting-edge indeed.
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This is going nowhere.

My first question was ,"Where in the desert?" Because almost anywhere they are going to have to fight for their water unless the project includes a new water source such as desalinization plants that would then have to get all sorts of approvals for pipelines to bring the water from a coastline, whether in Mexico or the US, to its site.

The web site claims, "Fresh water is stored, cleaned and reused on site. Create a diverse and efficient water system that is resistant to drought." Stored/cl;eaned/used . . . OK. But it needs to come from somewhere in the first place and generally in the US treated sewage water is not considered suitable for human consumption, only for watering plants, architectural water features and such.

My next thought was of Neom, the Saudi Arabian attempt to do something similar. With a lot more political clout and money behind it, still things are not going well.

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Saudi Crown Prince’s Vision for Neom, a Desert City-State, Tests His Builders

By Rory Jones, Summer Said and Stephen Kalin
May 1, 2021 8:00 am ET

RIYADH—If Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman realizes his dream, a $500 billion city-state dubbed Neom will one day rise from the desert, transforming Saudi Arabia by drawing billions of dollars in new investment as the kingdom attempts to reduce its dependence on oil before its crude reserves run dry.

So far, however, Neom has been mired in delays and hit by an exodus of employees who are straining under the weight of the prince’s ambitious vision.

Engineers have struggled with demands to blow a hole a half-mile long and 30 stories high in the side of a mountain, to house a honeycomb of hotels and residences. Another directive to construct 10 palaces, each bigger than a football field, attracted more than 50 different designs, but left staff wondering whether anyone would purchase homes that could list at up to $400 million each, according to a review of the project’s plans and interviews with those who have been involved in Neom’s development.

At one board meeting last December, Prince Mohammed brushed aside urban planners who offered other, simpler plans for a pollution-free city, telling them to think bolder . . . .

The latest vision centers around a 106-mile-long carbon-neutral project called the Line, a linear city connected by a high-speed train, with no cars.

Four other developments—called Neom Bay, Aqaba Region, Neom Mountain and Neom Industrial City—are intended to surround it, and include the project to build a resort in a mountainside known as the Vault. The hope is for Neom to have 14 industrial sectors, including energy, food production and media, among others.

Some Neom employees and Saudi officials say they are skeptical the plans are feasible. The kingdom’s sovereign-wealth fund and finance ministry already have plowed more than $1 billion into initial infrastructure, master plans, consultants and employee wages—cash that some Saudi officials say they believe could have been put to better use elsewhere.

Other employees, both former and current, say they aren’t convinced that outside investors will buy into some of Neom’s proposals. They also doubt the kingdom can live up to plans for a new set of laws for the city to attract foreigners used to Western norms, such as alcohol consumption or for men and women to freely mingle.

The project has had some success attracting blue-chip firms. In partnership with U.S. chemical company Air Products & Chemicals Inc. and a Saudi firm, Neom plans to invest $5 billion to build what would be the world’s largest green hydrogen-production facility. The rationale for that project makes sense with or without a sprawling city-state around it: Neom’s location is blessed with world-class solar and wind power, making the plant attractive for Air Products to export globally . . . .

Neom has cycled through dozens of senior staff members during his tenure, many of them bristling at Mr. Nasr’s management style, these people say.

Some have walked away from contracts of up to $1 million a year. Others couldn’t return to Saudi Arabia last year as lockdowns limited travel, and at least one was subsequently fired, these people added.

Andrew Wirth, the former CEO of one of the U.S.’s biggest ski resorts, who headed the planned mountain resort at Neom, left in August after determining Mr. Nasr’s leadership style was, “consistently inclusive of disparagement and inappropriately dismissive and demeaning outbursts,” according to a resignation letter viewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Other departures include the executive leading the Neom Bay development; the project’s investment fund; its legal team; and its tourism division. Also gone: two information-technology chiefs, two heads of marketing and two directors of communications . . . .
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-c...rs-11619870401
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All you need is $400 billion to build a 5 million person city? Sure.

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Although planners are still scouting for locations, possible targets include Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Arizona, Texas and the Appalachian region, according to the project's official website.
^Way to narrow it down! Did they consider the Moon before they ruled it out?

The Appalachian Region would be perfect, all they have to do is flatten those giant tree covered things called mountains.

Notice in the first picture, they have a guy riding a scooter on top of some weird opening in the concrete that allows for plant growth, in the middle of the Sonoran desert, with a tram operating in the same space.
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To narrow it down, red states would reject it if this new city turns their state more blue, so perhaps the California desert.
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It's a vision. Just like FLW's Mile High Illinois and Jacque Fresco's Venus Project that never amounted to anything.
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It's a vision. Just like FLW's Mile High Illinois and Jacque Fresco's Venus Project that never amounted to anything.
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Or maybe just invest in many of the USA's underfunded, underdeveloped, underbuilt central cities instead to maximize the use of existing resources, including the use of existing urban land.

That's the whole problem with the idea of building an entirely new city from scratch based on "eco-friendly" and "sustainability". True eco-friendliness and sustainability means not building any new cities or new suburbs or new subdivisions at all.
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The Appalachian Region would be perfect, all they have to do is flatten those giant tree covered things called mountains.
The Appalachian Region is a desert? Who knew?
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The Appalachian Region is a desert? Who knew?
Haha!

I wonder why they ruled out New Mexico?
They took it right off the table and said, NOPE!
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To narrow it down, red states would reject it if this new city turns their state more blue, so perhaps the California desert.
No f*cking way! It takes 10 years to build a solar farm in the California desert.


http://cms.sbcounty.gov/dpw/Land/esp...tTortoise.aspx

In case you don't recognize it, that's a California Desert Tortoise and they have stopped more desert projects in the southern CA deserts than members of their species exist.
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Our friendly neighborhood Egyptians are building a new capital city on a pharaonic scale in the desert. Your average biped doesn’t have much say on the matter, much less a tortoise.
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Nothing says sustainability like building an entire new city in the middle of the desert!
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No f*cking way! It takes 10 years to build a solar farm in the California desert.


http://cms.sbcounty.gov/dpw/Land/esp...tTortoise.aspx

In case you don't recognize it, that's a California Desert Tortoise and they have stopped more desert projects in the southern CA deserts than members of their species exist.
The ultimate NIMBY! All the red flags of one too. Old, no teeth, black soulless eyes, angry, and hard headed.

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Our friendly neighborhood Egyptians are building a new capital city on a pharaonic scale in the desert. Your average biped doesn’t have much say on the matter, much less a tortoise.
IDK man, that Tortoise is passionate.
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