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Old Posted Jan 6, 2022, 3:21 PM
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This looks like it could be very interesting - I'm intrigued.
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I don't see how the same developer that proposes a conservative, but high-quality tower at 570 5th, can also propose this insane, bizarre piece of junk that looks like it belongs in Kazakhstan.



In my opinion we are thinking about a first rough proposal that over time will undergo changes and lowering of height typical of these times, see project 570 5th... I wouldn't worry much for the appearance of this tower, so much will change.
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I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of hyperboloid or hourglass shaped tower. I'd be shocked if the final product looked anything like that massing image. They should get MAD to design it, they are masters at undulation:


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In my opinion we are thinking about a first rough proposal that over time will undergo changes and lowering of height typical of these times, see project 570 5th... I wouldn't worry much for the appearance of this tower, so much will change.
They aren’t lowering that height. Height is the whole gimmick for that one. Barnett just needs (assuming he doesn’t have it), financing.
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The whole purpose of that model in the photo is for wind testing. Meaning if there are drastic curves or other massing elements, they would be present in this model. I'm not saying this is what's getting built, but this model is the design for now.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2022, 7:07 PM
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2022, 8:54 PM
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https://therealdeal.com/2022/01/13/e...pecial-permit/

Extell plans Theater District hotel, avoiding special permit


BY KATHRYN BRENZEL
JAN 13, 2022


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When the City Council approved new restrictions on hotel development, it all but ensured that Gary Barnett’s Midtown project would remain unscathed.

Barnett’s Extell Development last week received permits for a more than 541,000-square-foot, 1,350-key hotel tower at 740 Eighth Avenue in the Theater Subdistrict, an area in which certain projects are exempt from the recently enacted requirement that developers must obtain a special permit for new hotels.


“We wanted to do an office building at 740 8th Ave but there were holdouts on 8th Ave that wouldn’t sell for a reasonable price,” an Extell spokesperson said. “The project was grandfathered since we were far along with the hotel, as were other hotel projects around the city.”

In December, the City Council approved a zoning text amendment that requires developers to obtain special permits to construct new hotels or expand existing ones by at least 20 percent. The measure exempted hotels that shelter homeless individuals and grandfathered in projects approved by the DOB before the City Council’s vote.

Applications filed prior to the City Council vote that were not approved by the DOB have a year to get their new building or foundation permits approved in order to be exempted.
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The measure also allowed certain new hotels in the Theater Subdistrict to avoid the requirement. Developers can keep filing plans for hotels in the subdistrict as long as they are located on lots of at least 20,000 square feet and at least half of the space is clear of any buildings or otherwise mostly vacant, as is the case with most of the lots in Extell’s assemblage.

The subdistrict is defined as an area bounded by Eighth Avenue to the west and Sixth Avenue to the east, between West 40th and West 57th streets. Given the lot specifications and Extell’s assemblage at the district’s core, Barnett’s firm is a major beneficiary of the carveout.
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Extell has been piecing together the development site since 2014, and a critical chunk of it was acquired this past summer. The developer bought two properties at 738 and 740 Eighth Avenue, along development rights, for $51 million, paving the way for a development exceeding 500,000 square feet. Extell had previously acquired part of the site from Related Companies, which had also planned an office building there, according to Pincus Co. Extell has spent at least $186 million assembling the 11 lots over the past seven years.
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A few weeks after the City Council approved the text amendment, Extell filed plans for a supertall at 570 Fifth Avenue in the nearby Diamond District. The developer has put forward two options for the site: A 1.5 million-square-foot office project or a 1.4 million-square-foot residential and hotel tower. The latter will require a special permit for hotel use, but the project will require other approvals either way, including two other special permits as well as a text amendment.
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https://patch.com/new-york/midtown-n...ty-ban-reports

Hotel To Be Built Near Hell's Kitchen Despite City Ban: Reports
Taking advantage of a loophole in the new city rule limiting hotel contruction, Extell reportedly got the green light for a huge tower.






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A huge hotel tower is reportedly set to rise near Hell's Kitchen, as the developer Extell aims to skirt a new city rule limiting the construction of new hotels.

The 1,350-room, 541,000-square-foot hotel will be built on Eighth Avenue and West 46th Street, according to The Real Deal, which first reported on the development. It is part of a nearly full-block site that Extell has spent years piecing together before starting construction.

Earlier this month, the company received permission from the city to move forward with the plan, The Real Deal reported — despite a major restriction on hotel development that passed the City Council in December.
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The city's Department of Buildings could not immediately confirm whether a permit was issued for the hotel.

Hotels and short-term rental apartments in Midtown have long had an uneasy relationship with their residential neighbors. Particular ire has been focused on Airbnb, as critics say the company has gobbled up the neighborhood's limited housing stock, driving up rents for full-time residents.


We know that it was approved in November.

https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/J...ssdocnumber=01
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https://www.pincusco.com/extell-perm...nally-planned/

Extell permitted for 1,350-key hotel at Times Square site where 194K sf office was originally planned



January 10, 2022


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Gary Barnett’s Extell Development, on January 7, received a permit for construction of a 541,428-square-foot hotel building with 1,350 rooms at 740 Eighth Avenue in Times Square. The owner representative in the filing was David Rothstein of Extell.

Back in June of 2020 the developer filed plans for a 164-foot tall, 10-story, 194,552-square-foot office building at the site.

The updated plans call for the construction of a 1,120-foot tall, 51-story hotel.

The developer uploaded zoning schematics of the project in November of this past year.

The project is described in the filings as: construction of a new building.

Per the plans, the ground floor of the building will have a lobby, multiple retail spaces, lounges, a deck, and office. The second floor will have additional retail space. The third floor will have amenity space, a business center, and terraces. The fourth floor will have a gym and spa. Floors six through 21 and 23 through 31 will each have 54 hotel rooms per floor. The 33rd floor will have a bar and kitchen. The 34th floor will have a bar and outdoor pool, along with a deck. Floors 35 through 51 will have several FDNY landing spaces, as well as observation decks on floors 38 through 40 and 49 through 51.


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Amidst Covid and the tourism hit... this is a good sign of the optimism floating around. We are already seeing it with many projects restarting or making major headway.

A super tall hotel, 1300+ units of hospitality... that is a good sign!
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I dread this...

Granted, 8th Ave is disgusting, but there's no need to add an insane structure to it.

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I dread this...

Granted, 8th Ave is disgusting, but there's no need to add an insane structure to it.

Thinking the lighting on this one will be quite Times Square-ish...

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Aside from the hideous butter-churn design (is Extell going Amish?), I don't get what this offers over anything else from an observation deck point of view. There are a number of higher decks around town. If this was 1500' or more, that would be different. It's basically an observation tower that's far too short and has no aesthetics. Kind of like what Calgary Tower has become (although Calgary Tower at least looks decent). Why on earth would you build (what is essentially) a glorified observation tower dwarfed by (eventually) a dozen other buildings, a good percentage of which have higher public observation decks?
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January 10, 2022






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What are FDNY landing spaces? Is that a way of saying the fire escape stairwell will have landings?
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What an absolutely hideous and awkward structure in every way

What the f*ck are they thinking?
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What an absolutely hideous and awkward structure in every way

What the f*ck are they thinking?
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