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Old Posted Apr 21, 2021, 1:07 PM
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I just see it as, there are people who can adapt, and there are people who can't.
Adapt to what? I would never want to adapt to this social distancing bullshit. Maybe there are just people who can adapt to the virus (by mounting an immune response) and people who can’t.
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Adapt to what? I would never want to adapt to this social distancing bullshit. Maybe there are just people who can adapt to the virus (by mounting an immune response) and people who can’t.
Adapt to the fact that reality as we know it is extremely fragile and unpredictable and throwing tantrums when faced with relatively small hardships to protect the greater good simply because it temporarily interferes with the extremely comfortable way of life to which one has become accustomed is how a petulant child acts and not an adult with full agency of their emotions.

Wearing a mask and social distancing pales in comparison to the things humans have dealt with in the past--we are just extremely coddled now. Many think the way things are is the way they always have been and always will be, completely ignorant of the fact that the comfort we all enjoy is a couple of generations old. The ironic thing is that if we had all just been careful, wore the little masks and social distanced we'd probably have been enjoying some level of normal for the second half of 2020. But some people's terror at the idea that the bubble they'd created for themselves in the 21st century wasn't impenetrable ruined it for everyone; their little acts of defiance against the universe throwing a curveball (based entirely on fear of the unknown or how to adapt to rapid change) cost a lot in real and cultural capital.


I always think about my ex-girlfriend, who's parents had sent her to the United States ALONE at 19 years old from Nepal to escape the communist uprising there in the early 2000s. She arrived in Chicago not knowing a soul and with no experience of the culture. Her family had been well off in Nepal, but even the well off in Nepal were still living in a third world country. She enrolled in community college for her student visa then transferred to a larger university, got a job and an apartment and did everything in such a way that by the time we met nearly 10 years later she was "westernized" enough that I had no idea of her background for the first few weeks that I knew her.

Anyway, her resilience always amazed me--all the things big and small that she had figured out so totally on her own (student loans, getting an apartment, navigating the workforce (she was a financial analyst for a major trade organization), etc.) and never complaining about anything. What I'll always remember was a time she developed a serious and mysterious allergic-type reaction that was causing her face to swell up terribly and turn red and patchy. It had been lasting for months, and none of the specialists were having luck figuring it out. I was so concerned for her, because in my experience that would cause most women (and men) in their late 20s navigating the professional world a lot of grief and frustration, but she shouldered it unflinchingly. She laughed off my concern and thought it was so curious, I mean it's just skin right?

But that was the mindset of someone who had experienced actual hardship and knew how to deal with it. A small inconvenience that temporarily interrupted her equilibrium was not worth getting upset about, just do what you need to do until it's solved.

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The irony of you lecturing us about the hardship of immigrants. Im betting you just like to pick and choose which complaints are “whiny” and which are “legit”
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The irony of you lecturing us about the hardship of immigrants. Im betting you just like to pick and choose which complaints are “whiny” and which are “legit”
What irony? And what lecture... do you mean anecdote? Because those aren't synonyms. Truly don't understand what points you are trying to make...
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I don't know. I got a lot of blow-back here every time I predicted it would happen sooner than people think. And guess what: A lot of those employees WANT TO come back. The office has a social as well as work function for many.
At the end of the day it's about having more options and flexibility right? Take one thing away (work from office) and people complain about not seeing coworkers, being cooped up at home, distracted by kids, feeling restless, etc. Take remote work away completely and people complain about having to commute into the office, annoying coworkers, waking up early and getting home late, etc. I think a hybrid model, where you go into the office a few days a week and work remotely the other days, which tech was pretty much already doing as you know, would be ideal for industries that can manage that.
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Truly don't understand what points you are trying to make...
Nor will you ever

Immigrant hardship as a counter-point to the complaining of Americans across the spectrum is only acceptable within certain cherry picked boundaries....with people like yourself being the arbiter of such

I've been at SSP long enough to know how that thinking goes....
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Nor will you ever
Yea, because it's convoluted and bad and you can't explain it, I'm guessing.

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Immigrant hardship as a counter-point to the complaining of Americans across the spectrum
It was a personal anecdote that happened to be about an immigrant that highlighted the larger point that most of the people who are so angry they need to wear a mask are very fragile. I'm sure someone could tell a similar story about a born-and-raised American who has overcome obstacles and developed a clear-eyed view of the tumultuousness and unpredictability of life.

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Lol, like what?

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And who are people like me, faceless internet stranger?

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I've been at SSP long enough to know how that thinking goes....
And we're all very impressed. However, this forum plays a non-existent role in my identity so I don't know why you would think being a poster here would give you some grand insight into my personality.
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It was a personal anecdote that happened to be about an immigrant that highlighted the larger point that most of the people who are so angry they need to wear a mask are very fragile. I'm sure someone could tell a similar story about a born-and-raised American who has overcome obstacles and developed a clear-eyed view of the tumultuousness and unpredictability of life.
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I agree with you. I keep trying to imagine how the people here whining about masks and distancing would have coped with real hardship like so many had to endure in major wars or the Great Depression. Even my generation had a military draft that sent my friends to Vietnam from which some didn’t come back. Compared to all this sort of thing, what we’ve had to endure over the last year, as unpleasant as it has been, is not real hardship.

That said, it’s fair to debate what’s in the real interests of us all and which among the various rules governments have tried to impose have been truly beneficial, both in terms of beating back the spread of the virus and the general welfare of people, and which have not or even been counterproductive. And things change of course. Now that we have effective treatments and vaccines, a lot less restriction is justifiable but on the other hand the vaccines raise the argument of to what degree society and government should distinguish between those who been vaccinated and those who’ve refused to be (once anyone who wants a vaccine can get it). If we want to fully reopen indoor entertsinment venues, for example, it would be so much safer if vaccination were a requirement for admission so should we impose such a requirement or is that too much government power. How about if the private venues themselves do it on their own—should it be allowable?
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Adapt to what? I would never want to adapt to this social distancing bullshit. Maybe there are just people who can adapt to the virus (by mounting an immune response) and people who can’t.
It's bullshit to stand a few steps away from somebody? It's not adapting it's... following the rules till "mission accomplished" and there must be more than that, because that's literally the easiest thing of all time. The impacts of social distancing like less seats in restaurants or theaters? Ok, valid complaints for the owners.
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I agree with you. I keep trying to imagine how the people here whining about masks and distancing would have coped with real hardship like so many had to endure in major wars or the Great Depression. Even my generation had a military draft that sent my friends to Vietnam from which some didn’t come back. Compared to all this sort of thing, what we’ve had to endure over the last year, as unpleasant as it has been, is not real hardship.
They can't handle it and take it out on their fellow citizens by not following the rules set forth by public health. The worst part is, it's a thin piece of fabric or whatever and people can't handle it.
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Again: There are apparently enough people willing to accept the conditions that will exist to fill the ships if the CDC will let them sail.


https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5904/
Or a lot of people too stupid to realize how disappointed they are going to be.
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Or a lot of people too stupid to realize how disappointed they are going to be.
Everybody who disagrees with you on any subject is “stupid” according to you. We knew that.
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It's bullshit to stand a few steps away from somebody, and it's not adapting it's following the rules till "mission accomplished". There must be more than that, because that's literally the easiest thing of all time. The impacts of social distancing like less seats in restaurants or theaters?
Mission is accomplished. We have a vaccine and it has been given to the vulnerable. That’s as good as it’s going to get or needs to be. We aren’t going to eliminate Covid.
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Mission is accomplished. We have a vaccine and it has been given to the vulnerable. That’s as good as it’s going to get or needs to be. We aren’t going to eliminate Covid.
You talk and think about Covid like it was from outer space. There are lots of viruses that have been around forever and used to ravage mankind. Even when I was a child almost every kid got measles, mumps and chicken pox. The unfortunate got polio. And before the invention of vaccination (actual vaccination—using vaccinia virus) smallpox was common.

SARS-CoV-2 can become like all these: Still around but limited to rare outbreaks that can be limited in scope with public health measures.

That’s the goal in the developed world. In the developing world, it’s likely it will be a disease that most people get in childhood when the symptoms are mild and by the time they are adults are immune. Developed world travellers to those endemic regions will need shots first.

The problem right now is that when the virus first came on the scene there was a world full of susceptible adults. That will not be the case in a few years in most of the world.
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Mission is accomplished. We have a vaccine and it has been given to the vulnerable.
Here's the thing, everybody is at risk of PASC and 1/3 of people are at risk of developing neurological disorders. Nobody on the forum has been able to downplay it in this thread or in the CE, so I challenge you to go after the neurological disorders and say that it's not a big deal.
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That’s as good as it’s going to get or needs to be. We aren’t going to eliminate Covid.
Every day more Americans get their shot, so it's going to get even better....especially in CA.
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Everybody who disagrees with you on any subject is “stupid” according to you. We knew that.
The people who post selfie's in masks and wear them in the car or outside...will be the ones lining up to take a cruise right now.
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The people who post selfie's in masks and wear them in the car or outside...will be the ones lining up to take a cruise right now.
I think the CDC wanted old people to wear their mask from door to door, and might recommend it a little deeper in the wording for everybody. I already don't wear them into places that took down their signage , but I should keep it in my pocket in case somebody inside wants me to wear it!
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CPS announces full-time, in-person learning in the fall
The district revealed its fall plans at the same time it released next year’s school-level budgets, which feature funding to address pandemic impacts.

By Nader Issa@NaderDIssa Apr 21, 2021, 11:56am CDT


Chicago Public Schools students will have the option of returning to classrooms full time in the fall, district officials announced Wednesday, in what will be the largest step yet toward the resumption of pre-pandemic schooling.

Though a few thousand high school students started learning in person four days per week on Monday, no CPS students have been back daily since schools closed because of COVID-19 conditions 13 months ago.

All students in all grades will have that choice available to them in the fall, while families uncomfortable or unable to return will still be allowed to learn remotely, CPS leaders said. Few other details were immediately available.
source: https://chicago.suntimes.com/educati...virus-covid-19




as a parent of two CPS students, all i can say is "ALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

a 5 day school week of full-time in-person learning sounds like some kind of magical unicorn dream.

dare i get my hopes up?





too late, they're already up!

i can't remember ever wanting anything more badly.

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For some of us, returning to pre-COVID life is turning out to be harder than we expected


Shelby Bernstein is eager for life to return to normal, but she feels anxiety seeing people gather at parks without masks or dining at outdoor restaurants.(Dania Maxwell / Los Angeles Times)


By DEBORAH NETBURN | STAFF WRITER
APRIL 21, 2021 5 AM PT

Shelby Bernstein can’t wait for life to get back to normal.

In theory.

But as COVID-19 restrictions lift across the county, Bernstein has found herself feeling increasingly anxious.

“Maybe it’s like Stockholm syndrome, except our captor is the coronavirus,” she said. “We’re all so used to the mental and physical havoc it wreaked upon us that any sense of normalcy feels wrong.”

Over the course of the pandemic, the 29-year-old product photographer limited her trips to the market, went a month without seeing her boyfriend, and only met up with friends at parks — mostly masked and six feet apart.

She returned to in-person work at a Santa Monica jewelry company in July, but spent most of the day in a bungalow by herself. She even tried to limit her bathroom trips to avoid being in enclosed spaces with other people.

Intellectually, Bernstein knows that her risk of getting COVID-19 in Los Angeles is significantly lower than it’s been in a year. Cases in the county have plummeted since reaching a peak in January, and more than 50% of the adult population in the state has received at least one shot. In addition, Bernstein received her first dose of vaccine a few weeks ago, giving her significant protection against the disease.

She’s not a hypochondriac or a hermit. She misses parties and getting on a plane to see friends. But she’s still not ready to ease up on the behaviors that have kept her safe — and given her peace of mind — this past year.

Medical experts say her concerns are valid. About 26% of Americans are fully vaccinated, and 40% have received their first shot. That still leaves most Americans unprotected.

At the same time, they note that for fully vaccinated people, activities like hugging or eating in a restaurant are safe, especially if vulnerable friends and family members are vaccinated as well.

But while the experts may say vaccines offer excellent protection from the virus, some people can’t help but feel it all sounds too good to be true. And though cases and deaths are on a downward trend in California, they’re rising in other parts of the country.

As with just about everything in this pandemic — family gatherings, business closures, schools — Angelenos’ feelings about the county’s reopening run the gamut from elation to alarm.

Some of us have jumped at the chance to see movies in actual theaters, grab a drink at a bar with friends, cheer the Dodgers or attend a small dinner party with fully immunized friends. Yet for others — even the fully vaccinated — the fear that any relaxation of safety protocols will lead to another surge is hard to shake.

“Every time I see people eating out or hanging out with their friends unmasked, I cringe and feel hopeless,” Bernstein said. “I hate feeling like this, but unfortunately for me and many others, I think this looming sense of dread will be with us for a long time.”


Customers dine inside a sushi restaurant in Long Beach.(Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times)

A recent survey by the American Psychological Assn. found that 49% of Americans feel uneasy about adjusting to in-person interactions once the pandemic ends. Similarly, 46% said they don’t feel comfortable going back to their pre-pandemic life.

In both cases, those who felt trepidation were just as likely to be vaccinated as not, said Vaile Wright, the association’s senior director for healthcare innovation.

“This suggests that the vaccine in and of itself is not an anxiety reducer, or at least not an anxiety eliminator,” said Wright, who worked on the study. “We have been in this routine for a year, and to change out of it is going to take some time.”

Dr. Ella Shadmon, who is a family practice physician in Pasadena, recently traveled with her husband and two teenage daughters to Arizona for spring break. It was the first time the family had been on a plane since the pandemic began.

As a medical professional, Shadmon received her first vaccine shot in January. Her husband and one of her daughters are fully vaccinated as well.

The family donned N-95 masks for the short flight from Burbank to Phoenix and stayed at an Airbnb once they got to Sedona. They dined at restaurants — outdoors — and checked to make sure the staff was fully masked first.

Because she’s vaccinated, Shadmon doesn’t feel at risk for getting COVID-19. Still, she found herself grappling with a range of feelings throughout the trip.

“It was strange. It was exciting. It was too crowded. It was filled with mixed emotions,” she wrote in a Facebook post. “Reentry is not as easy as it looks.”


Dr. Ella Shadmon and her husband, Ittai, during a recent vacation in Sedona, Ariz.(Courtesy of Ella Shadmon)

For Shadmon, this murky space where we are no longer in the middle of the pandemic, but not quite out of it either, has been the hardest phase to navigate.

When cases were high and vaccines scarce, it was easy to know what needed to be done to stay safe: Stay home as much as possible. Wear masks. Maintain physical distance.

“Now we’re in this middle ground,” she said. “And as every state, county and community does something totally different, it makes it 100 times worse.”

She’s no longer worried that she or her vaccinated family members will become vectors for the disease, but what about others? Have all those people dining indoors at restaurants received the vaccine? In both Arizona and California, the answer is likely no.

“When will the feeling that crowds are wrong go away? I’m not sure when I’ll personally get there,” she said. “I think we need full herd immunity. But when we get to at least the 50% [vaccination] mark, I think I will feel very different.”

Reports about new coronavirus variants and their potential to overcome the protection of vaccines have also added to some people’s anxiety.

“There is such an enduring feeling of lack of safety and trust because information is constantly changing about the variants, the efficacy of the vaccines and how long immunity lasts,” said Laurie Stone, a psychologist in West Los Angeles. “I don’t trust much of it.”

Stone received her second vaccine dose in February, but that’s small comfort.

“I still have this chronic apprehension,” she said. “It’s hard to soften the fear.”


Laurie Stone, a therapist in West Los Angeles, has been fully vaccinated since February but said the vaccine has only given her 25% more peace of mind. (Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)

Dr. Marybeth Sexton, an infectious disease specialist at Emory University School of Medicine, said it makes sense that even vaccinated people still feel anxious about reopening, especially when the majority of Americans are still unprotected.

For unvaccinated people, “it is critical that they continue to do the things we know work — wear a mask in public, keep your distance from people and avoid the things that can lead to super-spreader events like indoor dining, drinking at bars and large indoor gatherings,” Sexton said.

But she said those rules do not need to apply to people who are vaccinated.

“If you are vaccinated, doing those things is very low risk,” she said. “Two weeks after your second dose Pfizer or Moderna, or your first dose of Johnson & Johnson, your risk of getting the virus is dramatically reduced and the risk of being hospitalized or dying is almost zero.”


Movie-goers spread out with COVID-19 safety precautions to watch Disney’s “Raya and the Last Dragon” at The El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood.(Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)

Chunhuei Chi, director of the Center for Global Health at Oregon State University, agreed that fully vaccinated people could safely go out to dinner and a movie, but added that nobody should expect everything to go back to its pre-pandemic ways all at once.

“The return to normalcy is not a quick jump, it’s incremental,” he said.

Even in Taiwan, where there have been no new coronavirus cases for more than six weeks, the government still requires people to wear masks on public transportation, Chi said.

For those who are experiencing extreme anxiety, Charmaine Jackman, a psychologist and wellness expert, recommends mindful focus on the present moment.

“If you are spiraling, notice it, pull back and don’t judge yourself,” she said. “Worries about the future can be intense. Be in the present moment. Don’t get too far ahead.”

Another thing to consider: Judging others for taking fewer precautions hurts your own mental health.

“We don’t know why people are making the choices they are making. There could be a good reason,” she said. “It is helpful to think about it that way for your own self-care and peace of mind.”

Attaining that peace of mind might come by reentering society gradually.

You might start with something relatively easy, like going to the grocery store with a mask on, said Wright of the psychological association. Then experiment with a small backyard gathering and later a meal at an outdoor restaurant.

“When we practice avoidance, we implicitly tell our brains ‘It’s too scary,’ or ‘I can’t handle it,’” Wright said. What can reverse those messages is confronting safe situations.

We all have different tolerances for uncertainty, she said. Some of us may only feel comfortable if we can be assured that we are 100% safe.

But that will always be elusive — whether we’re in a pandemic or not.

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as a parent of two CPS students, all i can say is "ALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

a 5 day school week of full-time in-person learning sounds like some kind of magical unicorn dream.

dare i get my hopes up?





too late, they're already up!

i can't remember ever wanting anything more badly.

MAY "REMOTE LEARNING" ROT IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY.
They're still doing remote learning now? My kids have been full time in school since this fall, I think mine went back full time in late September. They still have the option of remote learning (they wont have the option next year) and in my daughters class a grand total of 0 parents opted for remote learning. There are a couple in my sons class but in their cases those parents are currently undergoing Chemo/cancer treatments so its understandable.
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They're still doing remote learning now?
for K-8, CPS has been doing "podded hybrid" since march.

- pod A does in person Mon/Tues (pod B is remote)

- everyone is remote on wednesdays

- pod B does in person Thurs/Fri (pod A is remote)


prior to March, CPS was 100% remote-learning since the pandemic began last year.
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