HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive


 

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1  
Old Posted Jul 21, 2015, 1:05 AM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,362
PHILADELPHIA | Hyatt Centric | 179 FT | 13 FLOORS











Title: Hyatt Centric
Project: Hotel, Retail
Architect: DAS Architects
Developer: Chancellor Hotels Associates, Clemens Construction Co., Hudson Hotels
Location: 17th and Chancellor St. Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: Rittenhouse Square
District: Center City
Floors: 13 floors
Height: 179 FT

Quote:
A proposal to construct a new $125 million boutique hotel at 17th and Chancellor streets in Philadelphia cleared a hurdle when the Center City Residents Association decided not to oppose the project.

A vote on the mixed-use development was taken at the organization's meeting Tuesday night and helps clear the way for it to move forward. The group and the developer had worked out several issues including lighting and streetscaping.

The hotel would stand 12 stories and have 300 rooms. It will be constructed on a site where a four-story parking garage now stands. Little Pete's diner was a long-standing tenant on the retail portion of the parking structure.

Called the Hudson, the hotel would have a rooftop restaurant, underground parking and retail space.
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...-nod-from.html
http://www.dasarchitects.com/hudson.html
http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...%20-%20CDR.pdf

Last edited by summersm343; Sep 22, 2016 at 1:14 AM.
     
     
  #2  
Old Posted Jul 21, 2015, 2:40 PM
TechTalkGuy's Avatar
TechTalkGuy TechTalkGuy is offline
Mr. Technology
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,008
It's an interesting proposal, but I have one concern that go with all "outdoor" venues.
How to control the issue of "smoking" when you have to protect the rights of "non-smokers".

As a non-smoker, I feel very restricted with my dining options.

As a tower in an of itself, it's too short to be visible to the skyline and will be seen as a gap from greater distances.

On the street level, the retail element will be a welcome amenity that is pretty common with responsible developers.

From the illustration provided, the fascade leaves much to be desired.
It looks old and outdated as is.
     
     
  #3  
Old Posted Jul 21, 2015, 3:52 PM
Londonee Londonee is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fitler Square (via London)
Posts: 2,042
As someone who has lived off 17th Street for over 5 years now, and in fear of sounding like a NIMBY, the taxi queues, pax loading/unloading, convention center bus pick up serving the half a dozen or so hotels along this stretch make the route almost unnavigable about 75% of the day.
     
     
  #4  
Old Posted Jul 21, 2015, 5:10 PM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is online now
NYC/NJ/Miami-Dade
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Riverview Estates Fairway (PA)
Posts: 45,694
     
     
  #5  
Old Posted Jul 21, 2015, 5:38 PM
PHL10's Avatar
PHL10 PHL10 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 1,588
Quote:
Originally Posted by Londonee View Post
As someone who has lived off 17th Street for over 5 years now, and in fear of sounding like a NIMBY, the taxi queues, pax loading/unloading, convention center bus pick up serving the half a dozen or so hotels along this stretch make the route almost unnavigable about 75% of the day.
Exactly. I usually opt for 19th due to the hotels. First the Westin on the left and then the Sofitel on the right and then the Latham on the left and then the Warwick on the right. The Hudson will mess up the alternating pattern!
     
     
  #6  
Old Posted Jul 21, 2015, 5:57 PM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by PHL10 View Post
Exactly. I usually opt for 19th due to the hotels. First the Westin on the left and then the Sofitel on the right and then the Latham on the left and then the Warwick on the right. The Hudson will mess up the alternating pattern!
Hotel Palomar now across from the Sofitel already messed up the alternating pattern
     
     
  #7  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 1:15 AM
Philly-Drew's Avatar
Philly-Drew Philly-Drew is offline
Φιλαδέλφεια
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NoLibs
Posts: 1,395
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris08876 View Post
Replacing the ugly-as-shit parking garage, with Little Pete's on the bottom? That's more than a fair trade IMHO. Of course I don't live in that neighborhood, and traffic will be impacted, but at parking garage is utterly awful looking.
__________________
"Imagine all the people, living life in peace." :Lennon
     
     
  #8  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 3:22 PM
PHL10's Avatar
PHL10 PHL10 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 1,588
Quote:
Originally Posted by summersm343 View Post
Hotel Palomar now across from the Sofitel already messed up the alternating pattern
I forgot about that! Despite driving and walking 17th Street often, I never really thought about the sheer number of hotels on that stretch until Londonee brought it up. It's pretty impressive.
     
     
  #9  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 3:46 PM
Londonee Londonee is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fitler Square (via London)
Posts: 2,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by PHL10 View Post
I forgot about that! Despite driving and walking 17th Street often, I never really thought about the sheer number of hotels on that stretch until Londonee brought it up. It's pretty impressive.
Yeah, Club Quarters is at 17th and Chestnut and Boutique Rittenhouse 1715 are basically on that stretch as well.
     
     
  #10  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 4:49 PM
Philly Fan Philly Fan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,479
Quote:
Originally Posted by Londonee View Post
Yeah, Club Quarters is at 17th and Chestnut and Boutique Rittenhouse 1715 are basically on that stretch as well.
Time to start calling this "Hotel Row."
     
     
  #11  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 6:19 PM
Philebrity Philebrity is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1
Ain't happening this year.

#SAVELITTLEPETES
     
     
  #12  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 8:28 PM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,362
We're not preserving a shitty parking garage for a restaurant when said restaurant can easily find another location in Center City.

#demolishthatshitnow
     
     
  #13  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 8:47 PM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is online now
NYC/NJ/Miami-Dade
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Riverview Estates Fairway (PA)
Posts: 45,694
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly-Drew View Post
Replacing the ugly-as-shit parking garage, with Little Pete's on the bottom? That's more than a fair trade IMHO. Of course I don't live in that neighborhood, and traffic will be impacted, but at parking garage is utterly awful looking.
I agree. Although I never ate at Little Pete's, but it looks like a good place with great food. At least I think...

One thing I've noticed in Center City is that parking is really a hassle, and its expensive too. Although there's been times I go on the weekend and its free. Usually, I park right near Cherry Street. In terms of traffic, I never really noticed it being super bad in that area, and this being on a weekday. But it could just be luck I guess.
     
     
  #14  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 10:34 PM
volguus zildrohar's Avatar
volguus zildrohar volguus zildrohar is offline
I Couldn't Tell Anyone
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The City Of Philadelphia
Posts: 15,988
Quote:
Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy View Post
It's an interesting proposal, but I have one concern that go with all "outdoor" venues.
How to control the issue of "smoking" when you have to protect the rights of "non-smokers".

As a non-smoker, I feel very restricted with my dining options.
What are you talking about? Smoking is banned pretty much everywhere except ones imagination in this city anymore. I know what I'm talking about - I smoke.

Outdoor venues are still covered under the ban so...what do you mean?
__________________
je suis phillytrax sur FLICKR, y'all
     
     
  #15  
Old Posted Sep 10, 2015, 1:09 AM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,362
Public Hearing Scheduled for Hudson Hotel Zoning


Quote:
City Council’s Rules Committee will hold a public hearing on Wednesday, September 30, at 10:00 a.m., on Bill #140858, which would create a zoning change that would enable the construction of the proposed $125 million Hudson Hotel at 17th and Chancellor Streets.

The hotel will contain 300 rooms and 40 executive suites and is being designed by DAS Architects. The penthouse floor will house an exclusive dining venue with panoramic city views, and two stories of luxury retail shops are planned along with underground parking.

In February, the Center City Residents Association (CCRA) voted to not oppose the construction.
http://www.centercityphila.org/press...news090915.php
     
     
  #16  
Old Posted Sep 23, 2015, 1:16 PM
Jawnadelphia's Avatar
Jawnadelphia Jawnadelphia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Wilmington, Delaware
Posts: 2,797
Hudson Hotel looks to be moving forward:

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...vCpgS642Vhi.99
     
     
  #17  
Old Posted Sep 30, 2015, 5:13 PM
Philly Fan Philly Fan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,479
Developers change hotel brand at Little Pete's near Rittenhouse Square

Quote:
The group behind a hotel proposal at the Little Pete's restaurant site has ceased efforts to brand the project as a Philadelphia sibling to New York's trendy Hudson Hotel and will develop the property as an upscale Hyatt instead.

Carol Horne Penn, project director for Chancellor Hotel Associates, said in written testimony to City Council members Wednesday that the project near Rittenhouse Square would be built under the banner of Hyatt's boutique Centric brand.
     
     
  #18  
Old Posted Sep 30, 2015, 5:48 PM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,362
Nice, nice! As long as it is still moving forward. I will change the title of the thread to Hyatt Centric. This is a really great new brand and I'm glad Philly will be getting one. This could open opportunity down the road for a Hudson Hotel to still open elsewhere in the city if SLS does well and the two companies merge.
     
     
  #19  
Old Posted Sep 30, 2015, 5:49 PM
Knight Hospitaller's Avatar
Knight Hospitaller Knight Hospitaller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Greater Philadelphia
Posts: 2,858
Looks like the name of the thread will have to be changed to "Hyatt Centric"
     
     
  #20  
Old Posted Sep 30, 2015, 5:50 PM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller View Post
Looks like the name of the thread will have to be changed to "Hyatt Centric"
Way ahead of you
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
 

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 8:21 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.