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Originally Posted by nyc15
please let new york city go further
i would like to see that building will be a megatall with the roof height is +1800 ft and with spire will be +2150 ft
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Hey, why not 5,000 ft! Realisticly though, let's keep this tower where it is, a potential supertall that could be taller the New York's other supertalls.
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Originally Posted by Onn
As much as I love this entirely new neighborhood going up in Hudson Yards, the WTC really should have been finished before any of this got started. An unfished WTC now blights lower Manhattan, while an entirely new business district is rising off the Hudson River unbenounced to most of the world.
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That's just the thing. You can not
force feed tenants into lower Manhattan. Not everyone wants to be down there, and not everyone will move down there, no matter what the rent is. If the WTC was on the west side, I could see that point. But trying to freeze office development in the city until the WTC is completed would only lead to tenants extending existing leases and waiting it out. There are lots of developers in the city, lots of potential landlords. Silverstein has as much a chance at landing a tenant as anyone else, but his towers are in a different location. Goldman Sachs could have leased one of his WTC towers, but they wanted their own. Had the city blocked it, they could have just reverted to earlier plans, and built a new headquarters in Jersey City.
Beyond that, despite the available space, the WTC is limited in the grand scheme of Manhattan office space. Take Related's towers for example. Time Warner basically got the north tower, no other signature tenant will look at it as prime headquarters space because TW already got the best floors (the higher floors tend to be smaller and more expensive). So the city needs to be realistic, and have multiple options. Then you have the category of tenants. Law Firms, for example, won't likely be the firms leading the charge to the new WTC . Yet, as a group, they are one of the largest users of office space in Manhattan.
The WTC is Downtown, and it will just take longer to fill the space. We learned that at least from the original complex.
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Originally Posted by ILNY
Does zoning for Hudson Spire allow mix use office/residential tower?
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Zoning does allow a mix use of space, but the site is primarily zoned for commercial space. That includes hotel space, and Tishman could always request more residential (currently I think its at about 400,000 sf, which is sufficient in itself).
As shown below, we can see that the site sits in the midst of active leasing in the Hudson Yards (see 3 Hudson, Manhattan West, etc.) Tishman Speyer probably doesn't have any finalized plans for what it will build at this time, other than that it will have a lot of office space. Look for more to be revealed in the future, as they won't build without a tenant. To get a tenant, you have to have at least
some plans.