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Originally Posted by twister244
You are NEVER going to get to that point, come back down to planet Earth for a minute. This virus is endemic, and won't go away. That's pretty established now. There are a subset of people that just won't get the vaccine, sorry. You can't mandate it either because it will fall in the courts.
Get your vaccine, and move on. At some point, you have to stop forcing people to wear masks inside everywhere too. If you are still afraid of this thing, then stay home......
I don't know what else to say here.
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I totally disagree. Maybe you are too young to remember when just about every kid had measles, chicken pox and mumps, viral diseases that are at least as contagious as COVID. Do you know anybody who's had any of them? Outbreaks of measles and mumps, anyway, make the news and significant outbreaks make the national news. That's because effective vaccines were developed for all. And the fact that there are always some people who don't get vaccinated is what "herd immunity" is about
: Eliminating viral transmission to the extent that even the unvaccinated are protected (about 7% of kids don't get the polio vaccine and 10% don't get the measles vaccine and yet a kid getting either is rare).
Portland, Oregon has taken a sensible approach at this stage of the pandemic: Businesses can let people take off their masks inside if the business checks to be sure they are vaccinated. Otherwise, the indoor mask mandate remains. Portland is still having lots of cases.
In San Francisco, on the other hand:
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One of the Bay Area's biggest hospitals has hit a huge milestone: Zero COVID patients
Kellie Hwang
May 20, 2021
Updated: May 20, 2021 6:34 p.m.
For the first time since March 2020, San Francisco General Hospital has reported zero COVID-19 patients.
The development Thursday marked a major pandemic progress point for San Francisco and one of its biggest and best known hospitals. Officials said COVID-19 vaccinations were largely to thank.
“This is a huge milestone in the pandemic to show the power of the effectiveness of the vaccines,” said Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at UCSF and medical director of the HIV Clinic at the hospital. “This milestone continues to assure us the epidemic in San Francisco is no longer a public health threat.”
She pointed to the 76% of San Francisco residents 16 and older who have received at least one dose of a coronavirus vaccine, and the city’s low virus case rate and positive test rate . . . .
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https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/ar...s-16192133.php
This may be more impressive even than it seems because SF General is the hospital for the city's poor and uninsured including its well-known homeless population. If it has virtually eliminated symptomatic COVID among that population, it is on the way to completely suppressing the disease as I described and you are calling impossible. When we in the Bay Area get the kids vaccinated and have another month or two to work on the hardest-to-reach adults, I think we can empty all the hospitals and then through contact tracing we can make the disease rare as it is in places like New Zealand, Taiwan, even China (did you forget about those places?). Then it'll be up to the rest of the country to learn by example or not.
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