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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 2:15 AM
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 2:21 AM
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 2:41 AM
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^ I still miss the Goldberg.

That one really stung.
What building was that?
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 11:25 AM
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It'll be interesting to see the dynamic of money flowing into River West with Bally's, Halsted Point, 700 W. Chicago and NOMA.
You bring up a good point. Just in terms of residential, those four mega-developments will bring in ~12,000 units. That's almost the entire housing stock of the Near South Side concentrated in a region bounded by Halsted, Hubbard, and the river (~90 acres). Throw in the casino and the fact your close to Fulton Market, the area is going to be extremely attractive to investors. I also imagine there's going to be a lot of spillover towards West Town along Chicago ave
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 1:17 PM
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crain's has a great detailed analysis of the changing river west area, given the new housing starts and the casino plans. no mention of river north anything.

it's a good listen, and its not paywalled:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...est-north-side
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 6:11 PM
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What building was that?
Prentice Women's Hospital designed by Bertrand Goldberg there's a documentary about trying to preserve it here on vimeo
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 6:38 PM
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^

crain's has a great detailed analysis of the changing river west area, given the new housing starts and the casino plans. no mention of river north anything.

it's a good listen, and its not paywalled:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...est-north-side
A great listen, thanks for sharing!
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 8:08 PM
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^^^^ not worth saving knock it down

don't waste any time preserving bad 60's-70's era parking garages save it for stuff that is actually worth saving
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 8:58 PM
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^^^^ not worth saving knock it down

don't waste any time preserving bad 60's-70's era parking garages save it for stuff that is actually worth saving
Nah, Tigerman's "Rolls Royce" garage should remain. Most preservationists would probably agree.
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Nah, Tigerman's "Rolls Royce" garage should remain. Most preservationists would probably agree.
It's been described as "whimsical." I hate whimsical.
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Even if you hate whimsical, it's still an important part of the story of Chicago architecture - the pendulum swinging from soulless copy-paste empty shell Modernism to a different kind of architecture that contained an explicit message.

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You bring up a good point. Just in terms of residential, those four mega-developments will bring in ~12,000 units. That's almost the entire housing stock of the Near South Side concentrated in a region bounded by Halsted, Hubbard, and the river (~90 acres). Throw in the casino and the fact your close to Fulton Market, the area is going to be extremely attractive to investors. I also imagine there's going to be a lot of spillover towards West Town along Chicago ave
* this * area* needs * a * transit * station *
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Extend the red line but have absolutely no vision or plan for servicing & connecting huge swaths of densifying land... good job CTA
100% agree. The entire orange line stations are basically swaths of shit land use. Even on the desirable blue line stations you have a lot of empty lots, drive thrus, strip malls, etc. Yet the geniuses at the CTA think extending the red line to fast declining far southside is smart lol. Bronzeville, which is gentrifying fast and far more desirable than anywhere in the far southside, has CTA stations that are barren, yet i'm suppose to believe that vast economic development will come out of this? lol ok.

It's sad transit construction is so expensive in this country. We get a chance to change the CTA and we're wasting it on some useless project to satisfy "equity" and all that blah blah. I bet a single brown-blue line connection will eclipse the entire ridership of the 4 stations combined. Will be far cheaper too.
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2022, 5:17 PM
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A Brown-Blue Line connection in subway thru dense built up neighborhoods will be cheaper than a new el along a freight railroad in the city outskirts? Sure...

It's a bad transit project for sure, but it's politicaly necessary at this point. We need to balance it out with good transit projects. Unfortunately the "good project" we have going right now is RPM, which is just rebuilding existing lines at a very high cost and adding nothing new.

As for the Orange Line, the SW Side has terrible aldermen but the new TOD ordinance should move the dial down there somewhat. P-streets guidelines now apply near rail stations, so that should be one more barrier to auto-centric developments. No driveway curb cuts, blank walls, etc.
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2022, 5:24 PM
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Mckinley Park is seeing lots of development, hoping the alderman there isn't some anti-development dummy and lets the surrounding L stations really liven up. The whole southwest side has tons of potential development wise really. Liking all the infill i'm seeing there
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Mckinley Park is seeing lots of development, hoping the alderman there isn't some anti-development dummy and lets the surrounding L stations really liven up. The whole southwest side has tons of potential development wise really. Liking all the infill i'm seeing there
Yeah if it happens anywhere first it will be McKinley. 35th/Archer is the only Orange Line stop that isn't surrounded by manufacturing areas. There is a big triangle of RT4 zoning between Archer and the park and lots of underused B/C properties along Archer, both areas could be redeveloped under the new TOD ordinance.

Ald. Cardenas has said the right things (trying to block a new Dunkin Donuts drive-thru next to the station) but I think he's gonna allow one new apartment building on Archer and then TOD is "mission accomplished", no need to keep allowing more.

I hate to keep banging the same drum but the appeal of the area will be limited so long as Archer remains an auto sewer. It needs a road diet big time. It should be a relative narrow diagonal street more like Milwaukee or Lincoln, not Western or Pulaski. Many parts of Archer have excellent bones for dense walkable development, but nobody will walk there if they could get flattened by an aggressive or drunk driver.
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2022, 5:40 PM
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Mckinley Park is seeing lots of development, hoping the alderman there isn't some anti-development dummy and lets the surrounding L stations really liven up. The whole southwest side has tons of potential development wise really. Liking all the infill i'm seeing there
Mckinley park never really got bombed out and has been pretty stable for decades so it doesnt need the same level of development as other bombed out neighborhoods.
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2022, 8:54 PM
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Cladding on 920 N Wells has begun.

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/10/cla...orth-side.html

Groundbreaking to move in will have to be some kind of record in Chicago if such records actually existed. Groundbreaking was 5/13/22. So they're only 5 months in. I could see them getting people moved in by the 9 month mark or earlier. And it'll be a sharp looking midrise to boot.

Also I feel like they've timed the topping out of this building to move the crane to the one that is wrapping up foundation work next door.

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