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Old Posted Apr 24, 2022, 10:59 AM
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I'm not really familiar with Michels. Have they done any other foundation work around town?

Mewonders if Case and Keller are booked up. With the all the groundbreakings commencing I imagine those guys have a tight schedule to keep this year.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2022, 11:26 AM
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Wow - leave town for a few weeks and look what happens.
( Great rundown Solar tyvm)
A lot of concrete is gonna get poured this summer in Chicago.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2022, 2:02 PM
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Brickell in Miami for sure. Just generally all of downtown Miami though is white hot. NYC/Miami/Chicago are going to be the leading cites tower construction wise for the 2020s.
we will see how interest rates and a cooled economy impact that current trend, hopefully things continue as is but I doubt it
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2022, 3:12 PM
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I'm not really familiar with Michels. Have they done any other foundation work around town?

Mewonders if Case and Keller are booked up. With the all the groundbreakings commencing I imagine those guys have a tight schedule to keep this year.
Michaels entered the Chicago market probably 5 years ago.

They are a huge infrastructure and road/building company from Wisconsin. Obviously they decided to take their foundations expertise from building bridges and whatnot and apply it to cassion subcontracting for highrises.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2022, 6:32 AM
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Michaels entered the Chicago market probably 5 years ago.

They are a huge infrastructure and road/building company from Wisconsin. Obviously they decided to take their foundations expertise from building bridges and whatnot and apply it to cassion subcontracting for highrises.
Interesting thanks.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2022, 10:16 PM
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Zoning app for 43 Green Phase 2 is up. 80 units with ground floor commercial and 110.5 feet in total height. Pretty sure that makes it a small high rise. Filling both phases at 2 people per unit average will raise that tract's density by 3500 ppsm alone.

Zoning app: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=

Article with a rendering: https://chicago.urbanize.city/post/c...-green-phase-2
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2022, 8:46 PM
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Oh wow. We need this at every L stop. Moar plz....

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Old Posted Apr 27, 2022, 2:28 PM
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Just wanted to drop this in... Draper and Kramer and BlitzLake coming to a site just west of North Union

https://chicago.urbanize.city/post/d...330-w-chestnut
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2022, 5:02 PM
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Wow what a bunch of BS. Now it's due to security

With this excuse we better start tearing down more buildings near federal buildings starting in D.C!!!. Oh wait, don't give these idiots any ideas.

There alot of better ways of fixing this other than a demo.





https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/4/...k-durbin-op-ed
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2022, 5:10 PM
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Wow what a bunch of BS. Now it's due to security
Dick being a real Richard.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2022, 5:20 PM
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^ Chicago should charge the Federal Government a $1 Billion demolition permit fee to tear those down
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2022, 6:52 PM
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Wow what a bunch of BS. Now it's due to security

With this excuse we better start tearing down more buildings near federal buildings starting in D.C!!!. Oh wait, don't give these idiots any ideas.

There alot of better ways of fixing this other than a demo.





https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/4/...k-durbin-op-ed
That's actually been their reasoning the entire time afaik..
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2022, 8:07 PM
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^ Yep, I think the development around 43rd st, if successful, can serve as an inspiration for how development can occur around other L stops in the city that have suffered from years of disinvestment.

I do think that too much subsidized housing in one location can be a bit of a ticking time bomb, however. And if we don't get an influx of free market housing in some of these areas to come via its own volition, we run the risk of having CHA-type slums 2.0 in a couple of decades, and we DO NOT want that problem again!
The area was flooded with market-rate construction since the 2000s condo boom. Lots of great new housing in Bronzeville that is priced reasonably for middle-class buyers. Since then, there was a bit of a lull and now there is a slow stream of market-rate construction again.

The last census showed that Bronzeville/the South Lakefront generally gained in both population, income, and educational attainment. This only makes sense; it is near the lake and close to downtown, Chicago's two biggest location factors. And it sits between downtown and the established wealthy area of Hyde Park/Kenwood. There's also tons of beautiful vintage architecture, lush boulevards, and decent public transit.

I'm not worried about this area relapsing into another ghetto anytime soon...
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That's actually been their reasoning the entire time afaik..
Well they could have used them as government buildings with heavier security.

I think the 1 billion dollar demo permit would be great idea. Atleast get some money for the city if they want to ruin a block of downtown.

Watch somebody gets the property for a high rise in a few years after they are done.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2022, 12:00 AM
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Well they could have used them as government buildings with heavier security.

I think the 1 billion dollar demo permit would be great idea. Atleast get some money for the city if they want to ruin a block of downtown.

Watch somebody gets the property for a high rise in a few years after they are done.
I'm just pointing out that their reasoning all along has been security concerns. With that being said, I'm pretty sure they can figure out a way to make the buildings more secure and use that $50M+ demolition money for multiple years for that. Maybe they can even find a way to utilize the buildings more for their own uses!

It's pretty dumb. I get their concern but it doesn't seem as If they're reaching for better solutions.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2022, 1:31 PM
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Dick being a real Richard.

I guess so. Richard sure did demo alot of buildings in the 1960's and 1970's. I guess thats why they call them DEMO crats.. Sorry could not resist.
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I'm just pointing out that their reasoning all along has been security concerns. With that being said, I'm pretty sure they can figure out a way to make the buildings more secure and use that $50M+ demolition money for multiple years for that. Maybe they can even find a way to utilize the buildings more for their own uses!

It's pretty dumb. I get their concern but it doesn't seem as If they're reaching for better solutions.
We can demo the buildings...


OR


We can pay like $50,000 to just cinderblock in all the windows on the West side of them...
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2022, 3:36 PM
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^ And I love </sarcasm> how Dick talks about how the buildings are in such disrepair, when the only reason they've deteriorated is because the Feds bought them in 2005 and have neglected them
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That's actually been their reasoning the entire time afaik..
First time writing to a Senator in my life. His reasoning on this is lazy at best.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2022, 4:42 PM
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Hasn't there been multiple repurpose attempts for those towers by developers over the years? Why won't the feds work with them to make sure security requirements are upheld instead of creating an eyesore of a gravel lot of the foreseeable future?
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