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Old Posted Aug 23, 2015, 10:55 PM
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If this eventually becomes a "urban reserve" with residential and retail developement, it might be a waste of money and time widening Kenaston street. Add the extra lane..if you will, but if history can teach you anything, it is that retail developements means more "intersection improvements" , in this case the construction of a intersection that did not exist, between taylor street and grant. Probably another one on grant also. This would counter balance any benefit of the extra lane. Possibly factor in additional crosswalks and longer redlights to account for people wandering to the other side.
It's in the south end so it'll get widened no doubt. Kenaston will be 12 lanes wide before the Louise Bridge is rebuilt.

The "urban reserve" with residential development is an interesting issue. Would residential development only be open to First Nations people? How would it be taxed for others if it weren't, since it's Crown/Treaty land? Could you have a mega development in Winnipeg that brings no benefit in terms of $$$ to the City itself, and actually costs the city money for infrastructure improvements around it?
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2015, 3:36 PM
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Pretty sure urban reserves normally sign a services agreement with the local government. This would cover services that are normally funded through property taxes. Single family housing on an urban reserve would purchase a "land lease" giving exclusive use to that lot in return for payment of the related service agreement.

Rather than look at the property tax and related services side the more interesting one to look at is if residents living on an urban reserve, regardless if they are status or not, is if they would be entitled to vote in the civic (city) election. Also how would children living there be classified in terms of school divisions which also receive funding from property taxes.
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2015, 4:56 AM
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Build a wall around it and allow zero access points. This would solve all congestion issues in the future
This would also make First Nations and the Feds get their arses in gear. As that land would be worthless without access points.
Both First Nations and the Feds are hold Winnipeg by the balls in this one. So we should do the same to them. Neither do is any favours.

The wall is a figure of speech. But we could resurface all those entry points with a curb lol
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Build a wall around it and allow zero access points. This would solve all congestion issues in the future
This would also make First Nations and the Feds get their arses in gear. As that land would be worthless without access points.
Both First Nations and the Feds are hold Winnipeg by the balls in this one. So we should do the same to them. Neither do is any favours.

The wall is a figure of speech. But we could resurface all those entry points with a curb lol
Complete clusterfuck, colossal waste of tax dollars in court and legal costs, and yes making the site inaccessible is what should happen, just as Browaty threatened to put a blockade on a street in NK the barracks land needs to be left landlocked and unusable permanently!
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Kapyong as a temporary home for Syrian refugees arriving in Canada?

(paywall) http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...340658561.html


It's probably going to take a while to work out the details of the land claim transfer now that litigation appears to be over... this would be a good use for the site in the interim. It could be a benefit to Winnipeg and Manitoba if it means we end up getting a bigger share of the refugee population settling here permanently.
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Kapyong as a temporary home for Syrian refugees arriving in Canada?

(paywall) http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...340658561.html


It's probably going to take a while to work out the details of the land claim transfer now that litigation appears to be over... this would be a good use for the site in the interim. It could be a benefit to Winnipeg and Manitoba if it means we end up getting a bigger share of the refugee population settling here permanently.
Did anyone here go to the meeting last night? Any word on the ideas they have for the land?
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If they want to replace the land with buildings such as this proposal by Yellow Quill First Nations in Saskatoon, I am in complete support.

http://www.collierscanada.com/7760#.VjukbzZdGUk
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Canada as a whole has a challenge with affordable housing. We are also entering into the brutal cold winter season. If you look past the other challenges with bringing over 25,000 refugees in the next 60 days providing a human level of shelter is near the top of the list. The reality of the speed at which this is to be completed means finding significant places to establish temporary housing and building a tent city is not a viable choice. As the barracks are empty and been used for housing in the past it would seem to be one near the front of the list for the temporary resettlement efforts.
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The barracks are no longer heated and the plumbing is inoperative. There are no kitchens in the barracks either.
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I am a proponent of the tiny house movement (not below 400 sq ft though), and this should be looked at regarding affordable housing.
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I am a proponent of the tiny house movement (not below 400 sq ft though), and this should be looked at regarding affordable housing.
Don't get the tiny house movement, can't see how it will gain traction anywhere in Canada outside the lower mainland (BC) or golden horseshoe (TO). It can work in a lot of places in the US where the climate doesn't force you to be inside.
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By that I mean, smaller units making affordable housing within reach for many.
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When a "small" bathroom being about 100 sq ft and most bedrooms pushing 200+ it is easy to see how most houses are over 1000 sq ft now. The small house movement basically minimizes the kitchen and bathroom and makes the rest into a loft style. There are honestly 3-bedroom, 800 sq ft properties in Winnipeg. There is no reason a 1-bedroom 500-600 sq ft house would be a stretch. That could actually be an interesting development for the old Southwood Golf course next to U of M, affordable housing for students and recent grads. Restrict it to 1 bedroom, no garage and under 700 sq ft.
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ICYMI, plenty of action today with a huge police chase and shootout on the Kapyong grounds near Grant and Kenaston today.
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When a "small" bathroom being about 100 sq ft and most bedrooms pushing 200+ it is easy to see how most houses are over 1000 sq ft now. The small house movement basically minimizes the kitchen and bathroom and makes the rest into a loft style. There are honestly 3-bedroom, 800 sq ft properties in Winnipeg. There is no reason a 1-bedroom 500-600 sq ft house would be a stretch. That could actually be an interesting development for the old Southwood Golf course next to U of M, affordable housing for students and recent grads. Restrict it to 1 bedroom, no garage and under 700 sq ft.
My home is 3 bedroom, 750 Sq feet. And they tell me its worth 240,000!
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Looks like the wheels are starting to turn on the redevelopment of the Kapyong Barracks site...

http://globalnews.ca/news/3472609/de...inching-ahead/

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Seven First Nations Chiefs, part of Treaty One, met with federal government officials Tuesday at 17 Wing to discuss their plans for the 158 acres of land along Kenaston Blvd.

“You’re definitely going to see one gas station for sure,” Dennis Meeches said, Chief of the Long Plain First Nation. “We also want to honor this site with a war museum reflecting on Kapyong’s history.”

Confirming for the first time, plans for a condo complex, single dwelling homes, office space, big box stores, a mall, a casino and selling a section of land to the city to widen Kenaston.
I suppose Superstore might be interested in a new site that lets them get out of their tiny current location on Kenaston, so perhaps that might be the big box anchor? That, along with the new Tuxedo Casino!
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I find it funny the first thing is always a gas station. Then a casino.. that part is not funny.
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I am a proponent of the tiny house movement (not below 400 sq ft though), and this should be looked at regarding affordable housing.
Sorry for pulling the old quote, one thing that struck me recently on the whole tiny house thing is they are essential one long rolling list of building code violations. Lack of proper plumbing and HVAC would seem to be the start. I suspect insulation, windows and electrical are also not to code. It also wouldn't be surprising to learn that a typical tiny home violates fire safety codes as well. It would be interesting to see what the cost of a tiny home that actually complied with all current building codes actually was.

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In terms of the latest proposal for the Kapyong site:

- gas station -- makes sense at the intersection of two major routes.
- condo complex + single family homes -- makes sense for the area.
- office space -- okay, not out of character for the area.
- big box stores -- in an area that is already overbuilt?
- mall -- they seen the struggles Outlet Collection is having securing tenants?
- casino -- province has made it pretty clear this is a complete non-starter.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 6:22 PM
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In terms of the latest proposal for the Kapyong site:

- gas station -- makes sense at the intersection of two major routes.
- condo complex + single family homes -- makes sense for the area.

- office space -- okay, not out of character for the area.
- big box stores -- in an area that is already overbuilt?
- mall -- they seen the struggles Outlet Collection is having securing tenants?
- casino -- province has made it pretty clear this is a complete non-starter.
The (bolded) work for me if choosing, offices, a possibility. Just get Kenaston widened. The museum honoring our soldiers is a nice concept, likely thrown in to appease some of the discontent over the whole situation.
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Why do we not see First Nations groups invest in downtown, namely Point Douglas? From the Louise Bridge to Main Street, there is plenty of potential to create a mixed-use community.
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