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Old Posted Aug 3, 2022, 4:11 AM
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New Renders

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Link: https://sterlingbay.com/properties/t...lincoln-yards/
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2022, 4:20 AM
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Wow looks amazing, now let's get digging!
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2022, 9:48 AM
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1665 N Throop St has a permit that's pending, so that'll kick off the Steelyard
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One thing that sticks out in the renders, the first image, is the water taxi. Since moving to NYC, I have come to appreciate the ferry system along the East River. It's both a fun and surprisingly useful way to get to Manhattan and Brooklyn from my neighborhood in Queens.

With the Lincoln Yards, the casino, the 78, and other developments along the branches, the water taxi system can help fill in some additional public transportation gaps. It's not a cure-all, obviously, but it helps. And it is fun.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2022, 1:48 PM
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that's a lot of office space

are they allowed to change course towards residential in the PD?
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2022, 3:03 PM
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One thing that sticks out in the renders, the first image, is the water taxi. Since moving to NYC, I have come to appreciate the ferry system along the East River. It's both a fun and surprisingly useful way to get to Manhattan and Brooklyn from my neighborhood in Queens.

With the Lincoln Yards, the casino, the 78, and other developments along the branches, the water taxi system can help fill in some additional public transportation gaps. It's not a cure-all, obviously, but it helps. And it is fun.
Yeah, I think if Chicago embraces the water taxi, it could really change the feel and identity of the city. Originally the public lakefront did this, and more recently the Riverwalk has been a huge change to the feel of downtown. If the North Branch riverfront really gets developed with commercial/residential/retail like this, I think this could be how many people remember and associate with Chicago.
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Yeah, I think if Chicago embraces the water taxi, it could really change the feel and identity of the city. Originally the public lakefront did this, and more recently the Riverwalk has been a huge change to the feel of downtown. If the North Branch riverfront really gets developed with commercial/residential/retail like this, I think this could be how many people remember and associate with Chicago.
100% agree with this. I'm really hoping once the next phase gets going, along with the casino, the city starts investing into the North Branch. There's so much potential here.

Also, maybe I'm being greedy, but I really hope we get a couple cool signature towers in this development. Not necessarily signature in terms of height (supertalls, etc), but signature in architectural style. Given how apart from downtown this development is, and it's visibility, I would hate to see a good opportunity squandered.
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1665 N Throop St has a permit that's pending, so that'll kick off the Steelyard
Sweet! I walked by the development recently and noticed the life sciences building still has some work left to be done. It was so crazy to stand there in front of the vast open land and try to imagine this all fully built out.
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Since moving to NYC, I have come to appreciate the ferry system along the East River. It's both a fun and surprisingly useful way to get to Manhattan and Brooklyn from my neighborhood in Queens.
And an incredibly inefficient use of taxpayer dollars.

Fiscal year 2021 the East River Ferry subsidy, per rider, was $12.88.

Meanwhile subsidies for MTA subways were $1.05 per rider. MTA buses? $4.92 per rider.

Perhaps Chicago is doing a little better since the fare is higher and the service is minimal by comparison. Does anyone have metrics to share?
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And an incredibly inefficient use of taxpayer dollars.

Fiscal year 2021 the East River Ferry subsidy, per rider, was $12.88.

Meanwhile subsidies for MTA subways were $1.05 per rider. MTA buses? $4.92 per rider.

Perhaps Chicago is doing a little better since the fare is higher and the service is minimal by comparison. Does anyone have metrics to share?
Chicago Water Taxi is a private company. (Operated by Wendella). It doesn’t actually receive taxpayer subsidies.

They pay the city to lease the docks, though sometimes the city will sponsor a new vessel purchase.

When Chicagoans discuss expanding the Water Taxi service, it’s about building new docks. Wendella ultimately decides whether it’s a desirable route or not.

https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/...Water-Taxi.pdf

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Does the East River in NY freeze over for 2-3 months of the year?
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Does the East River in NY freeze over for 2-3 months of the year?
Well, it's salt water, so.....
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Well, it's salt water, so.....
Yea, that's the point. Water taxi's in Chicago are more novelty than utile. A good thing but nothing that can be relied on on a yearly basis like in NYC. Just don't seeing it taking off much more than that.
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Yea, that's the point. Water taxi's in Chicago are more novelty than utile. A good thing but nothing that can be relied on on a yearly basis like in NYC. Just don't seeing it taking off much more than that.
Hover craft. They use them in Dnemark and the Netherlands. They can go right over the ice in winter. If there was a high speed hover craft flying down the Chicago river in January I'd be on it every day and I dont even work anywhere near the river.
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Not technically in the Lincoln Yards PD, but directly across the street (not "several blocks north") and proposed by Sterling Bay:

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The Great Fire slowed interest in wood buildings, but Chicago’s first mass timber tower could soon take shape

Developer Sterling Bay is set to begin construction of Chicago’s first mass timber building, a nine-story, apartment tower in the Lincoln Park neighborhood. If approved by City Council, the $50 million development may kick off widespread use of the modern technique, already popular in other cities, which boosters claim is more environmentally friendly than concrete or steel and provides residents with a warmer ambience.

Company officials said they hope to break ground by early next year at 2100 N. Southport Ave., several blocks north of Sterling Bay’s planned $6 billion Lincoln Yards development, and within another 24 months debut up to 135 new rental units.


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Yea, that's the point. Water taxi's in Chicago are more novelty than utile. A good thing but nothing that can be relied on on a yearly basis like in NYC. Just don't seeing it taking off much more than that.
I wonder if ridership could ever get to the point that year round service was needed. If so, maybe the city could invest in a few more river icebreakers (we have 1 or 2 currently, IIRC?) to keep the river channels navigable all year. Obviously this would be a big expense, so ridership would *really* need to surge on a significant level for that to happen.
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2022, 7:33 PM
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Not technically in the Lincoln Yards PD, but directly across the street (not "several blocks north") and proposed by Sterling Bay:
Good catch on the location. Looking it up on maps, I would have confused it as being technically being part of the Yards project. Would be great if this and the other next phase can get off the ground by the end of the year.
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I wonder if ridership could ever get to the point that year round service was needed. If so, maybe the city could invest in a few more river icebreakers (we have 1 or 2 currently, IIRC?) to keep the river channels navigable all year. Obviously this would be a big expense, so ridership would *really* need to surge on a significant level for that to happen.
Considering the water taxi isn't even running Mon-Thr currently (based on their website, at least) I'd say this is never going to happen unless the city starts to significantly subsidize the service.
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Considering the water taxi isn't even running Mon-Thr currently (based on their website, at least) I'd say this is never going to happen unless the city starts to significantly subsidize the service.
The Shoreline Water Taxi runs every day, but it's pretty exclusively for tourist destinations and more expensive. https://shorelinewatertaxi.com/
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2022, 12:02 AM
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that home depot parking lot needs to go....

but the building looks nice. Waiting to see the next building to rise up in that megadevelopment
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