LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0 - Page 397

sopas ej · #**7921** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 10:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

Good news! According to the LA Times, looks like the Pereira 1970s boxy lowrise will be denied "historic" status, clearing the way for the two towers (37 & 53 floors). Hopefully the economy will cooperate & keep the project moving. It should. See project thread for pics & more details.

Interesting. I'm glad they can move forward with that project.

I wonder if 1970s architecture will ever be looked back on fondly/with nostalgia in the coming years/decades. After all, during the PoMo 1980s, mid-Century architecture was lambasted by many. Now, it's just as lauded as Art Deco.

Illithid Dude · #**7922** Posted **Nov 29, 2018, 11:12 PM**

Tbh I honestly love 1970s architecture, and 1970s interior design is having a major revival at the moment. Doesn't mean all of it is good thought - especially not the Pereira addition.

bhunsberger · #**7923** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 2:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

Good news! According to the LA Times, looks like the Pereira 1970s boxy lowrise will be denied "historic" status, clearing the way for the two towers (37 & 53 floors). Hopefully the economy will cooperate & keep the project moving. It should. See project thread for pics & more details.

Yeah, and watch the towers in the current renderings be replaced with the generic 'cookie cutter' towers that have been going up. Stale & boring.

colemonkee · #**7924** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 6:20 AM**

^ That's one of my major concerns with this project. And the base is already not that great, so if they value-engineer than any further, this could be a real dud. I'm supportive of the project, but if it's going to be attached to a landmark like the original Times buildings, there should be heightened design standards Onni should have to adhere to.

CaliNative · #**7925** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 10:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by colemonkee

^ That's one of my major concerns with this project. And the base is already not that great, so if they value-engineer than any further, this could be a real dud. I'm supportive of the project, but if it's going to be attached to a landmark like the original Times buildings, there should be heightened design standards Onni should have to adhere to.

Agree. Maybe if they tweak the design, they could incorporate some "neo" Art Deco features to meld the towers with the two Times Mirror buildings being preserved. Of course cost is a factor, but a little tweak might be possible.

colemonkee · #**7926** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 3:54 PM**

It's my opinion that all they need to do is incorporate some sort of neo Art Deco elements at the base, and the towers rising above can be modern steel and glass, ala Hearst Tower in NY. Maybe some subtle elements in the tower that carry through the vertical elements of the Art Deco base. Onni had something similar in their original 12th and Flower development that incorporated some of the vertical concrete elements of the 4-story office tower on the site into the design of the base, and into one of the towers themselves, but some or all of those design elements appear to be scrapped. I hope the City holds them more accountable from a design perspective here. If development-minded folks like us are ever going to win over some of the preservationist crowd, we need developments that respect the icons they are integrating into or replacing, and make new spaces the people can be proud of moving forward.

citywatch · #**7927** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 6:02 PM**

Sterling Davis

Tiorted9 · #**7928** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 7:05 PM**

https://therealdeal.com/la/2018/11/2...k-development/

a9l8e7n · #**7929** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 7:36 PM**

Hey @citywatch, is there a cam that is pointing to this site? Or is this a drone footage?

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Sterling Davis

LAsam · #**7930** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 7:36 PM**

^ If the two preceding posts don't make us all happy, I don't know what will! The momentum is continuing. Really pleased to hear the Olympia is still moving forward.

citywatch · #**7931** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by a9l8e7n

is there a cam that is pointing to this site? Or is this a drone footage?

I wish there were a cam for the grand ave proj. unfortunately, the pic isn't from a cam but from a person who must have been on the upper floor of the music ctr.

for other views of dtla.....

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this will be friendlier when the park fifth apt tower on 5th St is occupied and lights are on.....

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caligrad · #**7932** Posted **Dec 1, 2018, 1:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tiorted9

https://therealdeal.com/la/2018/11/2...k-development/

This is GREAT news. If this can get built before any economic pressures, I'll be happy. This project will fill that gap we all hate and I'm sure will spur development between it and fig.

PS.

The front page needs to be seriously updated. A LOT of stuff is missing, some stuff is already complete and should be taken off and others are in the wrong place

Jun · #**7933** Posted **Dec 1, 2018, 2:50 AM**

Downtown always looks amazing in winter. Credit to Patrick Coyne:

JMKeynes · #**7934** Posted **Dec 1, 2018, 4:23 AM**

Beautiful!

Tiorted9 · #**7935** Posted **Dec 2, 2018, 1:30 AM**

Two great skylines, one from man and the other by mother nature. Both equally good

Patrick · #**7936** Posted **Dec 3, 2018, 8:44 PM**

^^^ It always astounds me when people say Los Angeles has an unattractive skyline. When viewed from certain angles downtown appears to have wedding cake style skyline that builds up to the US Bank Tower, that alone creates a damn-near perfect composition. But when set against Mt. Baldy, the skyline becomes one of the most beautiful and unique in the country, imo. Look how the US Bank Tower perfectly aligns with Mt. Baldy's peak, perfection!