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aluminum · #**1281** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 7:53 PM**

Pelli's version :

If 1200' =

If 1400' =

tyler82 · #**1282** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 7:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by GlobeTrekker

The news just reported Pelli as the winner at 1,400 feet. Any truth to that, or just an error? I don't see anything new on the TJPA website...

Chronicle says 1200 ft.

"But even as they selected the Hines-Pelli team over two rivals, leaders of the Transbay Joint Powers Authority stressed that the proposal now on the table is a starting point, not a fait accompli.
Although the authority board was unanimous today in their decision to select the Hines-Pelli team, several members said they expected the tower to eventually include both residential and commercial space. The original tower proposal included only commercial space."

Which shows that they team was clearly biased toward Pelli, because the other two towers already had this. Someone mentioned why should TJPA allow SOM to change it's terminal if Pelli's already works better? Well then why would they allow Pelli to change it's tower in the same regard?? It's all about the money, this isn't a "design competition" at all.

PBuchman · #**1283** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 7:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by San Frangelino

I really think I would like the tower a lot more if its were all done up in a creamy white like it looks in this model.

You may not be too far off. I believe Pelli described the tower as "A beautiful, shimmering, white obelisk."

San Frangelino · #**1284** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by PBuchman

You may not be too far off. I believe Pelli described the tower as "A beautiful, shimmering, white obelisk."

Alright, the Milk Man's here for delivery!

From:http://www.abc.net.au/tasmania/stories/s685079.htm

caramatt · #**1285** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by San Frangelino

As a sidenote, I really think I would like the tower a lot more if its were all done up in a creamy white like it looks in this model. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyWyv...elated&search= . But I am confident that won't be the case. But if it were we could call it the "Milk Man!"

Did you guys notice that the rendering of the tower shown now on the splash page of PCP's site has been made much whiter than in the initial renderings? I think that's a more accurate depicition of what's currently proposed.

I'd actually gotten kind of attached to the idea of a purplish tower with a white glowing crown. Plenty of time for them now to refine the design, and, as the jury recommended, make it more unique and iconic.

POLA · #**1286** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:14 PM**

I don't mind the tower, but that terminal looks like it will soon become dated, smelly, and filled with homeless... Kinda like the current one.

plinko · #**1287** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by tyler82

...Which shows that they team was clearly biased toward Pelli, because the other two towers already had this. Someone mentioned why should TJPA allow SOM to change it's terminal if Pelli's already works better? Well then why would they allow Pelli to change it's tower in the same regard?? It's all about the money, this isn't a "design competition" at all.

Because the terminal schedule and design is on the TJPA's dime. The tower is not. That's not bias. Not that difficult to understand.

rajaxsonbayboi · #**1288** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:43 PM**

damn it. ooh well im not that dissapointed though. the very first time i saw all three proposals i actually favored the pelli design. but then i fell for SOM. so any chances of the city doing someting wonderful and building the SOM tower some place else in the city huh huh?

rajaxsonbayboi · #**1289** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by GlobeTrekker

The news just reported Pelli as the winner at 1,400 feet. Any truth to that, or just an error? I don't see anything new on the TJPA website...

omg that would be the best news ive heard in weeks!

CityKid · #**1290** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:45 PM**

I'm probably the only person at this board who feels this way but YAAAAAAAAAAAAYY FOR PELLI!

This was my favorite design all along. I'll admit I did like the SOM design, but I think a lot of its appeal lay in its "shiny" renderings and mass marketing.

The battle has just begun though. Here's to hoping that they don't cut its height.

oak-sea · #**1291** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 8:59 PM**

If no one is going to visit the park 4 stories up, why not hand it over to the homeless? A people's park with tents and outhouses and ranting lunatics. This just might solve the homeless problem!

paulsfca · #**1292** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 9:20 PM**

I was soooo hoping they would pick SOM's design which IMO is exquisite. But the decision seems to have been made so I'm hoping for the best...that Pelli's terminal and tower comes out exceeding all our expectations...a 1400' stunning white obelisk! However, I will be emailing the TJPA hoping they utilize the SOM design on another parcel.

twinpeaks · #**1293** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 9:20 PM**

I love the SOM tower and terminal. I am dissapointed it will not be the transbay tower.

-SOM should consider using a similar design for the Tower and Ferry Terminal for Treasure Island. I think SOM is the primary designer for Treasure Island redevelopment. It would look great accress the bay from San francisco.

-For the Pelli Park, they should partner SFMOMA to create a Sculpture park or something similar Chicago's Millenium Park.

GlobeTrekker · #**1294** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 9:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by twinpeaks

-SOM should consider using a similar design for the Tower and Ferry Terminal for Treasure Island. I think SOM is the primary designer for Treasure Island redevelopment. It would look great accress the bay from San francisco.

I like that idea a lot, and they should keep the 1,375' height

The views from a tower like that on T.I. would be spectacular.

Kevlar1981 · #**1295** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 10:31 PM**

It's pretty disappointing that SOM wasn't chosen, but the fact that a 1000'+ skyscraper is going up at all in SF is cause for celebration.

Just imagine what it will look like next to the 1200' Piano towers.

Alliance · #**1296** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 10:45 PM**

I'd assume the difference in the heigts is roof to those funky windmills?

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Originally Posted by aluminum

Pelli's version :

If 1200' =

If 1400' =

What a pointless pissing contest.

aluminum · #**1297** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 11:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Alliance

I'd assume the difference in the heigts is roof to those funky windmills?

What a pointless pissing contest.

I hate the shape of pelli's version, but if it is 1400' then it is good to go and (because you're a Chicagoan) imagine how Chicago Spire would look if design remained exactly same, but scaled down to 1000' instead of 2000' ! Sometimes height 'alone' can impress.

HarryBarbierSRPD · #**1298** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 11:04 PM**

I have lived in and near SF for all of my 23 years.... and I want a 1200'+ tower!

THEY HAD BETTER NOT SHORTEN IT!!!

aluminum · #**1299** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 11:04 PM**

^^^ Thats the Spirit !

tyler82 · #**1300** Posted **Sep 20, 2007, 11:55 PM**

The Pelli design screams San Francisco..

The TRANSbay tower

which looks like a big uncut penis
or a vibrator

hahahaha Sodom By The Sea shall live forever!!

Image copyright Pelli Clarke Pelli architects