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Originally Posted by exit2lef
It's not an urban setting because the city has chosen to treat the 7's as expressways, even though they run through the heart of central city neighborhoods. That's a choice that can and should be questioned, but instead we keep digging ourselves deeper into a hole.
Chicago's survival of the wound inflicted by the McDonald's you've described there isn't justification for similar injury in Phoenix.
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The 7s have been expressways longer than you or I have been alive, I'd think. I'm mid 50s and recall you're around the same, so we've had plenty of time to observe what is and accept it.
Nobody notices the mcdonald's on clark, that's really my point in bringing it up. A whole city grew up around it. Nobody gives a rat's back end about that mcdonald's and it'll be the same story with the chicken filet in phoenix.
You are making an absolute mt. everest out of a mole hill. This is a gigantic city, there's plenty of room for urban development downtown while simultaneously building more commuter, car friendly development on the main thoroughfares surrounding downtown. That's what exists in all the other major cities.