LOS ANGELES | Transportation News & Discussion - Page 178

Quixote · #**3541** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 7:24 AM**

68.4% YES, 24.96% reporting

ChargerCarl · #**3542** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 8:41 AM**

Cigar time?

Bikemike · #**3543** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 9:16 AM**

Soooo, I'm taking yesterday's red wave to mean LA won't be getting any of the hoped-for Fed-backed financing that would speed up the agonizingly slow timeframes for Measure M projects

Seeing as Measure M is sort of a disappointment already, my hope was a democratic congress would help speed things up. But guess LA will suck a lot to live in for a while longer.

ChargerCarl · #**3544** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 9:39 AM**

meh, maybe they'll throw us some scraps.

Swede · #**3545** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 10:08 AM**

A red wave, yes. But there'll be more elections before the Measure M timeframe runs out. Enough time for more transit friendly politicians to win and then help speed it up.

plutonicpanda · #**3546** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 11:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Bikemike

But guess LA will suck a lot to live in for a while longer.

Says you. I am excited to have a car soon and be back on the freeways. I prefer cars over transit. It's only an opinion and yours is as well.

CCs77 · #**3547** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 12:08 PM**

68,9% almost 70 %, it seems it pass, good news...

On the other hand, Trump won...

mousquet · #**3548** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 1:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Swede

A red wave, yes. But there'll be more elections before the Measure M timeframe runs out. Enough time for more transit friendly politicians to win and then help speed it up.

Not so concerned about Donald.
This is Donald to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck

That guy can't cause any real harm. He always made me lol.

On the other hand, the Congress remains dangerously red indeed.
So even when angry Donald would try to push effective infrastructures further, the conservative Congress might block it all.

It really sucks. I'm hating it, cause what goes on to the US obviously has bad consequences to us all over here.

I'm just so fed up with scared retards hiding in their cars. They're like - hey, you see my shiny car!? It's bigger than yours, huh!
And they take way too much room over our cities.

Quixote · #**3549** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

Cigar time?

Nice waking up to this number... 69.82%

Easy victory. I don't think it ever dipped below the 2/3 threshold.

Quixote · #**3550** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Swede

A red wave, yes. But there'll be more elections before the Measure M timeframe runs out. Enough time for more transit friendly politicians to win and then help speed it up.

PPPs are being explored for the truly important projects, anyways.

LAsam · #**3551** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 5:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bikemike

Soooo, I'm taking yesterday's red wave to mean LA won't be getting any of the hoped-for Fed-backed financing that would speed up the agonizingly slow timeframes for Measure M projects

Seeing as Measure M is sort of a disappointment already, my hope was a democratic congress would help speed things up. But guess LA will suck a lot to live in for a while longer.

In Trump's acceptance speech, he highlighted infrastructure investment as a key focus. If that's truly the case, I don't see how Measure M would be negatively impacted with him in office.

ChargerCarl · #**3552** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 5:18 PM**

Unfortunately Trump doesn't know a thing about infrastructure.We're gonna get Paul Ryan's infrastructure plan: cuts for everything except highways.

mousquet · #**3553** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 5:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

Unfortunately Trump doesn't know a thing about infrastructure.

I don't know. I've been confused about this, but Donald is a whole 'huge' heap of confusion anyway.

He's a New Yorker, from Queens, so my guess is he's got some kind of sense about that.

At the same time, he's obviously a complete spoiled and lazy guy born to a wealthy daddy. He's nothing like a poor enraged guy that somehow got wealthy from skills of some sort. He mustn't even really know what a subway feels like for real.

So no one here really knows what to expect. The sure thing is he's not used to political tactics, that won't help him to the Congress.

I'm a bit skeptical, even when his actual intent could be positive...

Wait and see. At worst, it will be a "no change", which sucks more than enough.

Quixote · #**3554** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 8:44 PM**

There's just one more piece of the puzzle that's missing -- overturning the Prop A/C tunneling ban. This would only need a simple majority vote. I hope we can get the ball rolling on this for the midterm elections; certainly on the 2020 ballot.

Ragnar · #**3555** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Quixote

There's just one more piece of the puzzle that's missing -- overturning the Prop A/C tunneling ban. This would only need a simple majority vote. I hope we can get the ball rolling on this for the midterm elections; certainly on the 2020 ballot.

Tunneling ban? I must have missed something. Aren't we digging tunnels today for the Purple Line, Crenshaw Line and Regional Connector?

ChargerCarl · #**3556** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 10:22 PM**

I thought there was a ban on one in the SFV or something.

Quixote · #**3557** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 10:23 PM**

Those are being paid for with Measure R funds. The tunneling ban only applies to the Prop A/C taxes.

a very long weekend · #**3558** Posted **Nov 9, 2016, 11:45 PM**

it would be nice to repeal the tunneling ban, but there's no pressing need. metro can structure spending so that all measure a/c funds go toward surface rail planning and construction, and the r/m funding goes to subway planning and construction. but yeah, it would be great to get that repealed.

losangelesnative · #**3559** Posted **Nov 10, 2016, 12:15 AM**

Final EIR for streetcar released

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/f...ee63c1a01.html

Quixote · #**3560** Posted **Nov 10, 2016, 12:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by a very long weekend

it would be nice to repeal the tunneling ban, but there's no pressing need. metro can structure spending so that all measure a/c funds go toward surface rail planning and construction, and the r/m funding goes to subway planning and construction. but yeah, it would be great to get that repealed.

I disagree. It's essentially the only realistic path the Purple Line has in terms of getting to Santa Monica within a somewhat reasonable timeframe. All Measure R/M money is tied up for the next 40 years, and there won't be any "leapfrogging."

The beauty of Props A/C, unlike Measures R/M, is that they don't allocate a set of specific projects for each county subregion. We can't waste such a valuable resource on projects that are merely political concessions.