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Gaming Board sets hearing for second Philly casino license

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Big win for a 2nd Philly casino: SugarHouse drops its years-long fight against licensing decision

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It’s a go. After a three-year legal wrangle, SugarHouse Casino has dropped its effort to block a second Philadelphia gaming license, paving the way for Stadium Casino LLC to build its Live! hotel and casino in South Philadelphia.

“The board considers the licensing decision now final and unappealable,” said Doug Harbach, a spokesman for the state Gaming Control Board. “Thus, we have notified Stadium Casino that the fee of $50 million for its slots machine license is due Nov. 15.”

“We are thrilled to be teed up to build the hotel and casino. Our site is one of the premier locations in the U.S. for a truly upscale casino with world-class amenities,” said David S. Cordish, chairman and CEO of Cordish Cos. of Baltimore, an investor in the Stadium Casino joint venture. He said construction will commence next year near the city’s sports complex, with the opening planned for 2020.

Proposed for Philadelphia’s Live! hotel and casino will be a $600 million, 200,000-square-foot complex, with 200 hotel rooms, 2,000 slots, and 125 table games. Cordish Cos. operates two casinos in Florida and one in Maryland. It also owns and operates Xfinity Live!, a dining and entertainment venue near the South Philadelphia stadiums.
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If we're going to have a second casino, I don't think there's any better place for it (aside from building an actual unique experience by putting it on the SS United States along with a museum and hotel to make a truly unique experience that people would seek out).

Are they still looking to build that ugly gold crap? I know we're not going to get a masterpiece and it could be worse, but hoping there could be an improvement on what's been proposed.
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If we're going to have a second casino, I don't think there's any better place for it (aside from building an actual unique experience by putting it on the SS United States along with a museum and hotel to make a truly unique experience that people would seek out).

Are they still looking to build that ugly gold crap? I know we're not going to get a masterpiece and it could be worse, but hoping there could be an improvement on what's been proposed.
Agreed, I say we build out the stadium area to be an entire 'entertainment complex', XFinity Live was a good addition...add the casino in and a few more structures containing some bars, remove some parking lots and replace them with parking garages and we should be good to go. I was in Pittsburgh last year and they have built out the area around their stadiums to be a bumping party after a game...that's what we should be aiming for.

Also, the current proposal looks like 1980's Miami. Not a fan.
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[QUOTE=Groundhog;7974595]If we're going to have a second casino, I don't think there's any better place for it (aside from building an actual unique experience by putting it on the SS United States along with a museum and hotel to make a truly unique experience that people would seek out).

Yes , I also thought about that a few years back and might have even mentioned it on this sight .
However , just like some of my other thoughts and ideas this one went the way of the circular file . Besides
I was under the impression the SS US had been sold for scrap ..... YUK .
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That would be a damn shame if the SS United States got scrapped. And look at the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA. That got reused as a hotel. I don't see why we couldn't make a similar attraction in Philly.
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That would be a damn shame if the SS United States got scrapped. And look at the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA. That got reused as a hotel. I don't see why we couldn't make a similar attraction in Philly.
Because it would cost a fortune.
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$600M Live! Casino and Hotel Philadelphia to start construction in 2018

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I will be surprised if this gets built - especially now that they've opened up gambling at airports and truck stops in their infinite wisdom. I was at Atlantic City recently and the place is a ghost town. PA gambling oversaturated the NJ market and now it's oversaturating the PA market. 4 casinos within 20 minutes of Center City is enough, isn't it?
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I will be surprised if this gets built - especially now that they've opened up gambling at airports and truck stops in their infinite wisdom. I was at Atlantic City recently and the place is a ghost town. PA gambling oversaturated the NJ market and now it's oversaturating the PA market. 4 casinos within 20 minutes of Center City is enough, isn't it?
I like to see it happen despite the over-saturation. Like any kind of other businesses, only the fit will survive. If Live offers a great mix of gambling and adult entertainment (like bringing in small venue concerts, other entertainment program, whatnot), and a higher class feel, I'm all for it. The current casinos around the area are like slots parlor. Nothing to write home about. If they make this like the National MGM in the DC area or a resemblance to it, it will have a chance to survive and thrive.
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Agreed, I say we build out the stadium area to be an entire 'entertainment complex', XFinity Live was a good addition...add the casino in and a few more structures containing some bars, remove some parking lots and replace them with parking garages and we should be good to go. I was in Pittsburgh last year and they have built out the area around their stadiums to be a bumping party after a game...that's what we should be aiming for.

Also, the current proposal looks like 1980's Miami. Not a fan.
Although apartment supply seems to be peaking, they should eventually put some housing around here. You are seeing apartments for young people spring up around baseball stadiums throughout the country and they are selling well. D.C., Atlanta, Chicago has always had it. D.C. is a bit off the beaten track and prime D.C. neighborhoods, but it's still doing well.
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Although apartment supply seems to be peaking, they should eventually put some housing around here. You are seeing apartments for young people spring up around baseball stadiums throughout the country and they are selling well. D.C., Atlanta, Chicago has always had it. D.C. is a bit off the beaten track and prime D.C. neighborhoods, but it's still doing well.
agree lining pattison ave to block the parking lots would do wonders and around in in front of CBP - would really change the street feel and offer almost surbanish apts with BSL access, something different for Philly
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I heard that the stadium owners in Pittsburgh didn't want residential development around the stadiums because it's easier to schedule events with out a neighborhood council to deal with.
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I like to see it happen despite the over-saturation. Like any kind of other businesses, only the fit will survive. If Live offers a great mix of gambling and adult entertainment (like bringing in small venue concerts, other entertainment program, whatnot), and a higher class feel, I'm all for it. The current casinos around the area are like slots parlor. Nothing to write home about. If they make this like the National MGM in the DC area or a resemblance to it, it will have a chance to survive and thrive.
I completely agree. In order to survive in what is obviously an over-saturated market, this casino will have to specialize in something. There is probably a niche market out there that none of the area casinos have been able to target yet. If Live! can find an area of the market to specialize in, then it can position itself to attract those market segments and remain profitable (especially if those segments are willing to spend more for the experience).

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agree lining pattison ave to block the parking lots would do wonders and around in in front of CBP - would really change the street feel and offer almost surbanish apts with BSL access, something different for Philly
That section of South Philly could easily be a world-class entertainment district. I can easily envision Pattison Avenue lined with mixed-use residential/retail/entertainment buildings, a large hotel at the southeastern and/or northeastern corner of Broad and Pattison, and implemented traffic-calming measures that will make the area safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Combine this with the fact that the area has 24/7 access to Center City and it becomes easy to see this place as an entertainment district.

Also, I can see the part of the Navy Yard closest to South Broad developed to the tune of being our version of Baltimore's Inner Harbor.
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Why not make the Sports Museum part of the casino?
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They tend to pretend that there is no connection to sports and gambling.
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I will be surprised if this gets built - especially now that they've opened up gambling at airports and truck stops in their infinite wisdom. I was at Atlantic City recently and the place is a ghost town. PA gambling oversaturated the NJ market and now it's oversaturating the PA market. 4 casinos within 20 minutes of Center City is enough, isn't it?
This. Atlantic City is desperate, and it needs to reinvent itself now, and everyone else isn't making it any easier. Plus, look at what happened when the AC casino market was oversaturated. There are already too many casinos in the area, we don't need any more.

Also, it's stupid that it's illegal to bet on sports in New Jersey. They should have made that legal when places like Bally's and the Trump Taj Mahal were coming up.


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Although apartment supply seems to be peaking, they should eventually put some housing around here. You are seeing apartments for young people spring up around baseball stadiums throughout the country and they are selling well. D.C., Atlanta, Chicago has always had it. D.C. is a bit off the beaten track and prime D.C. neighborhoods, but it's still doing well.
I can see this. The area east of the Sports Complex is mostly old industrial buildings that really do look bad. Even the building across from the Linc looks like it could go. And with the Navy Yard as an up-and-coming area, this could too become popular.

Although personally, I wish the Phils had built on Spring Garden like they wanted to and the Linc had 10,000 more seats, but that's neither here nor there.
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