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Old Posted Dec 2, 2015, 9:51 PM
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I liked the proposal with the amusement park. Philly really needs a amusement park (Maybe indoor).
Why? Plenty of World Class amusement parks near by: Six Flags, Hershey Park, Dorney Park, Sesame Place, Morey's Piers, etc.

I would prefer not to waste valuable land within city limits for an amusement park.
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Why? Plenty of World Class amusement parks near by: Six Flags, Hershey Park, Dorney Park, Sesame Place, Morey's Piers, etc.

I would prefer not to waste valuable land within city limits for an amusement park.
Why not? It's a big city/county. My mom used to tell stories about going to Woodside Park in the 40's. If New York can squeeze in Coney Island, we can manage something more modest. I wonder what we could do to make us more like Dallas?
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DisneyQuest® Indoor Interactive Theme Park- Why not?

They would make a killing in profits.
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DisneyQuest® Indoor Interactive Theme Park- Why not?

They would make a killing in profits.
Okay. I would accept that. Haha!
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Why? Plenty of World Class amusement parks near by: Six Flags, Hershey Park, Dorney Park, Sesame Place, Morey's Piers, etc.

I would prefer not to waste valuable land within city limits for an amusement park.
I thought we already had an amusement park at the intersection of Broad & Market.
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I thought we already had an amusement park at the intersection of Broad & Market.
LMAO! Great one!


...On a serious note, the Sports Complex area would be a PERFECT nightlife district, including some TOD around Pattison (AT&T) station. Huge parking lots could be redeveloped under a special "Entertainment District" rezoning. Plus, that area is well-served by 24 hour weekend service on the Broad Street Line.
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LMAO! Great one!


...On a serious note, the Sports Complex area would be a PERFECT nightlife district, including some TOD around Pattison (AT&T) station. Huge parking lots could be redeveloped under a special "Entertainment District" rezoning. Plus, that area is well-served by 24 hour weekend service on the Broad Street Line.
I think the area could handle residential as well, forming a grid around the ballpark

also some of the warehouses are moving i believe and could be redevelopment spots, maybe an extended LRT from De Ave to the area as well but think the areas around the BSL could support development and still retain some fo the or most of the parking


Imagine apts and retail lining the street accross from the ballpark etc, maybe a roof ppol with views in etc.
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Why not? It's a big city/county. My mom used to tell stories about going to Woodside Park in the 40's. If New York can squeeze in Coney Island, we can manage something more modest. I wonder what we could do to make us more like Dallas?
Wasn't there plans for an amusement park on that island in the Delaware years ago? That'd be kinda cool
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Wasn't there plans for an amusement park on that island in the Delaware years ago? That'd be kinda cool
I don't recall, but it sounds vaguely familiar.
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City council approved zoning today, but they need the Supreme Court to uphold the license. Construction could begin in 2016, opening in 2018.

Still talks of a renovated Holiday Inn.

http://6abc.com/news/city-council-approves-zoning-for-$450m-casino-complex-/1117776/
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Council Approves Glitzy South Philly Casino

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Council Approves Glitzy South Philly Casino

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2015/1...philly-casino/
Nice! It will be located not far from all of the Sports Arenas.
Travel Agents could promote Philly as an entertainment center too!


I just hope they BUILD THE HOTEL FIRST! And not like Sugar House.

There still is no hotel at Sugar House. What gives??
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Nice! It will be located not far from all of the Sports Arenas.
Travel Agents could promote Philly as an entertainment center too!


I just hope they BUILD THE HOTEL FIRST! And not like Sugar House.

There still is no hotel at Sugar House. What gives??
The hotel at the Live Casino is already built. It's a rehab of the existing Holiday Inn.
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The hotel at SugarHouse? LOL. Did you really fall for that? The days of people traveling from afar to gamble (and needing a hotel room to stay in) are long gone, except for Vegas. Any casino proposal that includes a hotel should not ever be taken seriously. Except in Live's case because they're using an existing hotel, which will draw the same clientele as before - no one will be staying at that hotel for the sole purpose of gambling at Live.
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The hotel at the Live Casino is already built. It's a rehab of the existing Holiday Inn.
Uhh..... I think they have old information. The hotel is being demo'd and a new hotel will be built in it's place.

The original plan was just to re-purpose the Holiday Inn, but they have since decided to demolish it. Look at the renderings, the new hotel tower is in a completely different location than the Holiday Inn. Also, the current Holiday Inn is 11 floors and the new hotel is 18 floors. It's just lazy journalism from ABC.

This is the old plan that called for repurposing the Holiday Inn hotel:



This is the NEW plan which calls for a demo of the Holiday Inn and a new hotel tower constructed:
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I think the area needs a hotel regardless with the number of events

Maybe a second, which the area around the baseball stadium and along pattison would infill a bit along the roads at least

I think if this does move ahead the Hotel will be built, not all demand will be coming from the casino itself and may be able to sell as location for NY visitors (business etc.)

I also imagine that with their large lot they will look to steal parkers from other city lots (not sure they accounted for that loss of revenue the city that is) with some lure of gamble at least 20 minutes or something and get parking waived/voucher etc.

They will have to have some parking control function as left at say $5 it would be preferred and fill quickly over 20-30 options
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Yes, what I was trying to say was this area has an established need for a hotel. Not only events, but also I'd bet a lot of folks stay there as a cheaper alternative to staying downtown. The subway is very close by, putting CC within easy reach. I don't think the casino itself will drive additional demand. Plus it's close to the airport but in a more lively area. And the Navy Yard.
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Yes, what I was trying to say was this area has an established need for a hotel. Not only events, but also I'd bet a lot of folks stay there as a cheaper alternative to staying downtown. The subway is very close by, putting CC within easy reach. I don't think the casino itself will drive additional demand. Plus it's close to the airport but in a more lively area. And the Navy Yard.
I don't know how many rooms difference there will be between the existing and proposed hotels, but overall it's pretty much a wash.
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I don't know how many rooms difference there will be between the existing and proposed hotels, but overall it's pretty much a wash.
Yeah. not much of a different. Current Holiday Inn is 238 rooms. New hotel would be about 310 rooms.

I wish they would go ahead and built out the entire XFinity Live complex as originally planned and build the hotel tower they had planned there:

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Yeah. not much of a different. Current Holiday Inn is 238 rooms. New hotel would be about 310 rooms.

I wish they would go ahead and built out the entire XFinity Live complex as originally planned and build the hotel tower they had planned there:
I was thinking about that. Maybe the growth of the Navy Yard will prompt that, but wouldn't it be more likely that the hotel would be at the Navy Yard? Without transit access, it makes more sense to put it there, I'd think. Maybe the between the growing Navy Yard and a little extra casino-based demand there'd be enough reason to put a hotel at Broad & Pattison.
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