New BC Ferries

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by MIPS

[url=http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/5/7/6/970675.jpg[/url]http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/m...7/6/970675.jpg

...and proud of it!!!

[casper]

Originally Posted by Klazu

That's an interesting link, thank you! Many of the largest ferries coming to their end of life this decade. I hope at least some of the replacement vessels would be built in BC.

I think the National Ship Building Strategy need to be revised to be aligned with a provincial ship building strategy.

BC Ferries is pushing for state of the art environmental technology that we should be developing in BC.

[madog222]

Vancouver Shipyards will be tied up with the Coast Guard and Navy orders for a while, they don’t have the capacity to also build large ferries.

[Migrant_Coconut]

The (new) HMCS Protecteur was laid down last year and is scheduled for 2023; assuming her sister and the Coast Guard's OOSV have comparable schedules, both slipways should be ready for other contracts by 2030.

[Conrad Yablonski]

Originally Posted by Klazu

That's an interesting link, thank you! Many of the largest ferries coming to their end of life this decade. I hope at least some of the replacement vessels would be built in BC.

Originally Posted by madog222

Vancouver Shipyards will be tied up with the Coast Guard and Navy orders for a while, they don’t have the capacity to also build large ferries.

Fisheries too- there's just no capacity and no desire to build larger yards with their monstrous capital investment and long time lines.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by officedweller

BC Ferries gives new electric-hybrid ferry a First Nations name

Pics by me March 18th:
@ Departure Bay



The lounge is under the elevated parking deck on the right side.
The interior areas up top next to the sun deck are probably crew areas.

[Klazu]

Looks good. There is something I really like about BC Ferries. People like to pick on them, but they provide valuable service to the province and I have always had a good time onboard. I think their operations and terminals are well-organized and the ferries are perfect for each of their purpose. I might say that I am pretty proud about us having something like BC Ferries.

I am really looking forward to visiting Mayne Island for a little getaway next month!

[casper]

Originally Posted by Conrad Yablonski

Fisheries too- there's just no capacity and no desire to build larger yards with their monstrous capital investment and long time lines.

At the same time we have some modest sized ferries going over to Europe.

Another shipyard, say in Northern Vancouver Island that was able to build smaller ships would be idea.

[officedweller]

The new vessels would replace the C-class vessels (Queens of Cowichan, Coquitlam, Alberni, Oak Bay)

BC Ferries begins process of replacing aging fleet with new hybrid vessels
https://globalnews.ca/news/10113158/...ybrid-vessels/

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The new vessels would replace the C-class vessels (Queens of Cowichan, Coquitlam, Alberni, Oak Bay)

The BC Ferries Queens, long may they reign.

I remember touring the Spirit of British Columbia when it was docked at Canada Place pier prior to being put into revenue service. I still think of the S-class ferries as "new" - hard to believe that they're 30 years old now. The C-class ferries have almost a couple of more decades than that on them. They've earned their retirement.

[Conrad Yablonski]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

The BC Ferries Queens, long may they reign. They've earned their retirement.

That's not how it works the ships don't stop working until they sink;
they're sold on to some minor league destination with minimal regulations in one case bought by an ex-BC Ferries employee.

And if you think they were wrecks when they left here (and they were) you should see them tiptoeing around the Great Astrolabe Reef heading in to Kadavu Island in a hard blow with the tropical sun blasting down; I have and it's not a trip I'd like to take (although not quite as dodgy as the run out to far Rotuma).

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Conrad Yablonski

That's not how it works the ships don't stop working until they sink;

In the BC Ferries fleet, ships last only as long as they are reliable. Once they start breaking down too often the political fallout from missed sailings outweighs the cost of acquiring new, more reliable vessels. This is especially true in peak season when the domino effect can hit virtually everyone sailing on an affected route over an entire long weekend and leaves people stranded in the terminals overnight.

The folks who acquire these vessels when BC Ferries is done with them have to make do with what they get.

[officedweller]

BC Ferries' failed Pacificat fast ferries ships in Egypt listed for sale
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-f...t-listing-sale


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-f...t-listing-sale

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

man what happened to them? sad.

i always liked them from a design aspect. shame the NDP did it just for boats and political reasons and wasted 100s of millions on 3 ships, with 1 never entering service.

[MIPS]

Them be cursed ghost ships at this point.



They've been sitting idle and roasting in the middle-eastern sun for over 15 years. I'm more surprised they aren't completely vandalized like the Queen of Sidney.

[officedweller]

They are owned by the Egyptian military, so any vandals would likely see quick retribution.

[Conrad Yablonski]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

...man what happened to them? sad.

They were (literally) designed by committee with all the flaws & idiocy that encompasses; there was nowhere to sit where you weren't expected to spend money.

The outside deck didn't have enough space to swing a dead cat and their sharp steep wakes damaged people's properties.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Conrad Yablonski

They were (literally) designed by committee with all the flaws & idiocy that encompasses; there was nowhere to sit where you weren't expected to spend money.

The outside deck didn't have enough space to swing a dead cat and their sharp steep wakes damaged people's properties.

yeah i know the story about them. but i mean, the massive chunks missing on the sides of them in that photo. looks like a collision.

i remember traveling on one of these (barely) as i was on the younger side. but i thought it was super cool. and i do like the idea on paper. but yeah, no, they were a bad idea.

we need more ships like the Queen/C class. a good workhorse of the fleet.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Conrad Yablonski

They were (literally) designed by committee with all the flaws & idiocy that encompasses...

It's interesting to compare these aluminum catamaran ferries to the Seabus. I've always been very impressed with the design of the Seabus - it does such a good job as a commuter vessel. Quick loading and unloading thanks to the integrated ship and berth design, very high reliability thanks to all the redundancies built into the vessels, and relatively cheap operating costs thanks to things like using the same standard diesel engines as our buses.

Almost everything that works well about the Seabus is really terrible with the fast cats. Hard to believe that both were brought in by NDP administrations.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Hard to believe that both were brought in by NDP administrations.

different generation of the NDP. one did it for benefiting people, the other did it for vote buying.