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The ATX · #**221** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jdawgboy

And that awesome video is already outdated. We had a 54-story tower (62 East) announced for that area two weeks ago.

pianowizard · #**222** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 4:51 PM**

In case no one has pointed this out before, CTBUH shows that 2 of the 8 tallest US buildings under construction now are in Austin, with the other 6 in NYC. In a way, Austin has supplanted Chicago:

1 JPMorgan Chase World Headquarters New York City (US)
423 m

2 The Brooklyn Tower New York City (US)
324.9 m

3 The Spiral New York City (US)
314.2 m

4 98 Red River Austin (US)
311.2 m

5 262 Fifth Avenue New York City (US)
304.7 m

6 50 Hudson Yards New York City (US)
299 m

7 Two Manhattan West New York City (US)
285 m

8 Sixth & Guadalupe Austin (US)
266.7 m

ILUVSAT · #**223** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 9:51 PM**

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The ATX · #**224** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 12:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by pianowizard

In case no one has pointed this out before, CTBUH shows that 2 of the 8 tallest US buildings under construction now are in Austin, with the other 6 in NYC. In a way, Austin has supplanted Chicago:

1 JPMorgan Chase World Headquarters New York City (US)
423 m

2 The Brooklyn Tower New York City (US)
324.9 m

3 The Spiral New York City (US)
314.2 m

4 98 Red River Austin (US)
311.2 m

5 262 Fifth Avenue New York City (US)
304.7 m

6 50 Hudson Yards New York City (US)
299 m

7 Two Manhattan West New York City (US)
285 m

8 Sixth & Guadalupe Austin (US)
266.7 m

Thanks for posting that. It is somewhat amazing that Austin with a Metro population not yet 2.5 million can rank so high on any list like that.

MAC123 · #**225** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 1:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

Thanks for posting that. It is somewhat amazing that Austin with a Metro population not yet 2.5 million can rank so high on any list like that.

Ig. Austin is punching above its weight, especially compared to other large Texas cities. Seriously what is going on Houston and Dallas (not really though, I know it's cause they're designed terribly, like most newer western cities)
Though this list will be outdated in the coming years. NYC will take all top ten spots (unless Austin, Philly, LA, or Chicago put up a 1,200 fter) Austin will probably be in the top 20 though by then lots of LA projects will be going through, SF is about to get another supertall approved, Philly might put something up, Chicago has a shot with the one central project but they can't seem to get anything off the proposal stage.
Oh and there's Miami who's getting some tall ones.

JN12Franklin · #**226** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 3:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by pianowizard

In case no one has pointed this out before, CTBUH shows that 2 of the 8 tallest US buildings under construction now are in Austin, with the other 6 in NYC. In a way, Austin has supplanted Chicago:

1 JPMorgan Chase World Headquarters New York City (US)
423 m

2 The Brooklyn Tower New York City (US)
324.9 m

3 The Spiral New York City (US)
314.2 m

4 98 Red River Austin (US)
311.2 m

5 262 Fifth Avenue New York City (US)
304.7 m

6 50 Hudson Yards New York City (US)
299 m

7 Two Manhattan West New York City (US)
285 m

8 Sixth & Guadalupe Austin (US)
266.7 m

"In a way" is doing a ton of heavy lifting here. Saying Austin has supplanted Chicago in any way is getting carried away. Love what we're seeing in Austin though.

For perspective - Chicago has buildings under construction at 259 m (Salesforce) and 253 m (1000M) and recently completed 363 m (St. Regis), 296 m (One Chicago), and 273 m (NEMA). Feel free to go at other cities though.

Jdawgboy · #**227** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 3:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by MAC123

Ig. Austin is punching above its weight, especially compared to other large Texas cities. Seriously what is going on Houston and Dallas (not really though, I know it's cause they're designed terribly, like most newer western cities)
Though this list will be outdated in the coming years. NYC will take all top ten spots (unless Austin, Philly, LA, or Chicago put up a 1,200 fter) Austin will probably be in the top 20 though by then lots of LA projects will be going through, SF is about to get another supertall approved, Philly might put something up, Chicago has a shot with the one central project but they can't seem to get anything off the proposal stage.
Oh and there's Miami who's getting some tall ones.

Keep in mind that Austin may not be done with supertalls yet. There is at least one possible candidate in the works behind the scenes, and a second location that has an old post office has for years been speculated that something big may pop up there. Supertall big?... We will be patiently waiting for development news for that site.

The ATX · #**228** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 6:55 PM**

I'm pretty sure pianowizard was only referring to the moment in time that CTBUH listed those 8 projects as the tallest U/C and nothing else.

The ATX · #**229** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 7:24 PM**

I just ran the CTBUH tallest U/C building search again. And other cities including Chicago made the top 8. But the top 4 are Austin & NYC.

Altoic · #**230** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 7:41 PM**

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Urbannizer · #**231** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 10:15 PM**

pianowizard · #**232** Posted **Jul 29, 2022, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

I'm pretty sure pianowizard was only referring to the moment in time that CTBUH listed those 8 projects as the tallest U/C and nothing else.

Yep, I was talking about such a narrowly defined "way", nothing more. BTW I do understand that we generally avoid comparing cities on this forum, but since Austin has just joined the Supertall Club, I think a little bit of comparison helps showcase how far this not-so-big city has come. Never did I intend to diss Chicago.

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Originally Posted by The ATX

I just ran the CTBUH tallest U/C building search again. And other cities including Chicago made the top 8. But the top 4 are Austin & NYC.

I should have explained that in my CTBUH search, I had specified not just "Under Construction" in the Status box, but also "Architecturally Topped Out" and "Structurally Topped Out". This was to conform to this Supertall Construction forum, which includes all three categories. Either way, Austin has made astounding strides recently.

KevinFromTexas · #**233** Posted **Jul 30, 2022, 3:28 AM**

I doubt anyone is seriously suggesting Austin is threatening to take away Chicago's skyscraper notoriety. Just that it's a unique spectacle to be watching Austin join the ranks of New York and Chicago when it comes to actually building a supertall and an 800 footer. I've been posting here for 20+ years now and it's an incredible realization that I never thought would happen. For me, it's not about competition or bragging rights at all, just an attempt to grasp the gravity of the situation and make it "real" for us.

IluvATX · #**234** Posted **Jul 30, 2022, 1:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

I just ran the CTBUH tallest U/C building search again. And other cities including Chicago made the top 8. But the top 4 are Austin & NYC.

I stated months ago that once One Chicago is complete, 6 x Guad would be the tallest U/C outside NYC. That didn’t last long. In that time span 98 Red River started Construction and now yet another Austin building is the tallest U/C outside NYC. Pretty mind boggling.

Urbannizer · #**235** Posted **Jul 30, 2022, 4:48 PM**

The ATX · #**236** Posted **Aug 3, 2022, 4:07 PM**

KPF features this on their website now under both current & supertall projects. They refer to the project as Waller Creek as well 98 Red River.

https://www.kpf.com/project/waller-creek

TonyL · #**237** Posted **Aug 4, 2022, 3:00 PM**

It's still a little weird to me that Austin is getting a Supertall that's taller than Dallas and Houston. I am not even sure Dallas has one and Houston has that weird ass tower out in the middle of nowhere. Williams Tower or something.

MAC123 · #**238** Posted **Aug 4, 2022, 3:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by TonyL

It's still a little weird to me that Austin is getting a Supertall that's taller than Dallas and Houston. I am not even sure Dallas has one and Houston has that weird ass tower out in the middle of nowhere. Williams Tower or something.

Houston has 2 supertalls. 600 Travis Street and Wells Fargo Plaza. Williams Tower is the third tallest.

N90 · #**239** Posted **Aug 4, 2022, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by TonyL

It's still a little weird to me that Austin is getting a Supertall that's taller than Dallas and Houston. I am not even sure Dallas has one and Houston has that weird ass tower out in the middle of nowhere. Williams Tower or something.

Um Williams Tower isn’t in the middle of nowhere. It anchors the Uptown Houston business district, 4 miles west of Downtown Houston. Your comment is utterly ridiculous.

MAC123 · #**240** Posted **Aug 4, 2022, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by N90

Um Williams Tower isn’t in the middle of nowhere. It anchors the Uptown Houston business district, 4 miles west of Downtown Houston. Your comment is utterly ridiculous.

Hmm that's real interesting. Maybe the person who made that comment would be interested as well.