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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 9:18 PM
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If the ssp (smudged out) diagram page is up-to-date, here’s the first page for the Top 25 Under Construction in the USA and Canada (232 metres to 423 metres†)

*includes one or more super-tall

NYC**** - 9

Toronto** - 8 (2 are in Mississauga)

Home-Boy Note: if ‘The One’ is approved for its height increase to 338.3 metres, it would pass both The Spiral and The Brooklyn Tower to become the 2nd tallest under construction in the USA and Canada after †270 Park Avenue @ 423m.

Chicago - 3

Miami - 3

Austin* - 2


(if Mexico is included, one project makes it into the list by virtue of a tall but tiny 'spire' ;-)
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2022, 9:28 PM
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If you include Mexico, they have the tallest under construction right now with Rise Tower is Monterrey. I believe it's 1,491 ft?

Well "under construction", I believe they're still doing site work was the last picture I saw. Dunno if that counts.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 3:38 PM
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Austin is set to surpass Dallas in the number of buildings over 500’. I believe the city also has more underway above 500’ than Chicago.

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Yep. That'll give us 18 over 500 feet.

The situation...

Houston - 35 | +2 under construction
Dallas - 20
Austin - 9 | +10 under construction
Forth Worth - 3
San Antonio - 0
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Over 500' in Austin (as of today):

9 = T/O or Complete
10 = Site Prep or U/C
11 = Proposed, Site Plan Under Review, or Approved


Plus, there are these projects which should be over 500' (not included in the numbers above):
-3rd & Congress
-ATX Tower East
-ATX Tower West
-99 Red River
-309 E. 3rd

If all built - that's 35.
Currently, Austin is tied with Atlanta

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Skyscrapers over 500+ feet

Miami: 66 (60 built | +6 u/c)
Houston: 37 (35 built | +2 u/c)
Los Angeles: 31 (27 built | +4 u/c)
San Francisco 25 (25 built | 0 u/c)
Boston: 23 (20 built | +3 u/c)
Seattle: 21 (20 built | 0 u/c)
Dallas: 20 (20 built | 0 u/c)
Atlanta: 19 (19 built | 0 u/c)
Austin: 19 (9 built | +10 u/c)
Las Vegas: 15 (15 built | 0 u/c)
Philly: 15 (13 built | +2 u/c)
Pittsburgh: 11 (11 built | 0 u/c)
Minneapolis: 10 (9 built | +1 u/c)
Detroit: 9 (8 built | +1 u/c)
Charlotte: 8 (7 built | +1 u/c)
Denver: 8 (8 built | 0 u/c)
Baltimore: 4 (4 built | 0 u/c)
Portland: 3 (3 built | 0 u/c)
St. Louis: 3 (3 built | 0 u/c)
San Diego: 1 (1 built | 0 u/c)

I used the SSP database
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 4:33 PM
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So at what point does Austin stop building buildings on top of massive above ground parking garages?
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 5:17 PM
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Seattle is currently building two over 500' if you count Bellevue.

And five just under the 484' limit that applies to residential in a certain Downtown fringe.

As for parking podiums...agreed.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 10:53 PM
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So at what point does Austin stop building buildings on top of massive above ground parking garages?
Austin is currently in that transition now. Some active projects have above ground parking, some have mixed (both above and below grade), some have below grade, and a few have no parking at all. I am not opposed to the massive amounts of parking, and we may as well get as much of that infrastructure before the city stops forcing developers to include it altogether. Cars are not going away.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2022, 4:40 PM
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It's good to hear the transition is starting.

But why aren't you celebrating this, and in favor of less and less parking?

Developers will always try to provide what they think is warranted, though they might push the edges in some cases. They have to...it's necessary for their rent levels upstairs.

Reduced parking a big factor for affordability as the city grows.

It's also a big factor in how many units a given site can hold, particularly on small sites.
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So at what point does Austin stop building buildings on top of massive above ground parking garages?
When developers can make money off of not having parking and cities do not require them. There are two skyscrapers under construction in Miami without parking, but, I believe they had to jump through hoops with the City to get approved. Here's the first in Miami:
https://goo.gl/maps/yBsWDzW659z7EgFu8
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2022, 5:06 PM
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It's good to hear the transition is starting.

But why aren't you celebrating this, and in favor of less and less parking?

Developers will always try to provide what they think is warranted, though they might push the edges in some cases. They have to...it's necessary for their rent levels upstairs.

Reduced parking a big factor for affordability as the city grows.

It's also a big factor in how many units a given site can hold, particularly on small sites.
I think like you guys said, Austin is still in that transition period. I'm guessing their public transportation system isn't equipped to handle car light or car free commuting. SF just announced a 62-story 663 ft residential tower with 826 units (135 of which will be affordable) with a 133-car underground garage, and additional parking for 324 bicycles. If Austin can get to that level that would be much better, but obviously they're going to need to improve their transit infrastructure as well.
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It's good to hear the transition is starting.

But why aren't you celebrating this, and in favor of less and less parking?

Developers will always try to provide what they think is warranted, though they might push the edges in some cases. They have to...it's necessary for their rent levels upstairs.

Reduced parking a big factor for affordability as the city grows.

It's also a big factor in how many units a given site can hold, particularly on small sites.
I am celebrating the transition! I just also don’t mind when and where parking is still being built for all the reasons you just said. After all, even the above ground structures being built now are far and away more aesthetic than the ones built even a decade ago.

Another really important point is that new build luxury high rises without parking are relatively rare. Rich people, even urban rich people, usually own a luxury vehicle even if they don’t use it too often. They need somewhere to park it.
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It's good to hear the transition is starting.

But why aren't you celebrating this, and in favor of less and less parking?

Developers will always try to provide what they think is warranted, though they might push the edges in some cases. They have to...it's necessary for their rent levels upstairs.

Reduced parking a big factor for affordability as the city grows.

It's also a big factor in how many units a given site can hold, particularly on small sites.
I don't think developers would build as much parking as they do without parking mandates.
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