Homicide stats in Canadian Cities - Page 300

Acajack · #**5981** Posted **Sep 5, 2022, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Luisito

Wow. Mtl uses be a rough place. Im really surprised at those early 80s numbers.b

As I said, mafia hits. And then a bit of a lull.

Then biker gangs, but they were forcefully dismantled in the early to mid 90s.

And now a pretty long lull.

Wigs · #**5982** Posted **Sep 5, 2022, 9:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

As I said, mafia hits. And then a bit of a lull.

Then biker gangs, but they were forcefully dismantled in the early to mid 90s.

And now a pretty long lull.

Both Montreal and Quebec City seem hella safe now.

Luisito · #**5983** Posted **Sep 5, 2022, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

As I said, mafia hits. And then a bit of a lull.

Then biker gangs, but they were forcefully dismantled in the early to mid 90s.

And now a pretty long lull.

Never mind. I read that wrong.

Would be interesting to see what the numbers were like in the 70s.

Hali87 · #**5984** Posted **Sep 5, 2022, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Luisito

For those in Halifax is the news over there saying anything about who killed Pat??? It apperently happened in front of a lot of people.

There haven't been many witness reports and there don't seem to be any suspects yet. It sounds like there was a sudden and chaotic brawl that got out of control in a small nightclub, Pat somehow got stabbed in the process (it does not sound like he was the intended target), and whoever stabbed him probably fled immediately. The venue has a lot of tight spaces, students are back so downtown was packed that night, and it seems he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Hali87 · #**5985** Posted **Sep 5, 2022, 10:13 PM**

CBC: Man charged in fatal Sask. stabbings found dead, other accused still at large, RCMP say

"One of the two accused RCMP are seeking in connection with a string of fatal stabbings in Saskatchewan on Sunday has been found dead, police confirmed Monday.

Rhonda Blackmore, commanding officer of the Saskatchewan RCMP, said Damien Sanderson, 31, was found dead with wounds that did not appear to be self-inflicted."

NewIreland · #**5986** Posted **Sep 5, 2022, 10:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hali87

There haven't been many witness reports and there don't seem to be any suspects yet. It sounds like there was a sudden and chaotic brawl that got out of control in a small nightclub, Pat somehow got stabbed in the process (it does not sound like he was the intended target), and whoever stabbed him probably fled immediately. The venue has a lot of tight spaces, students are back so downtown was packed that night, and it seems he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Apparently the Club (Yacht Social Club) is being accused of serious negligence. There were (apparently) no coat/purse checks or pat downs. This whole thing is so surreal.

Acajack · #**5987** Posted **Sep 6, 2022, 3:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by NewIreland

Apparently the Club (Yacht Social Club) is being accused of serious negligence. There were (apparently) no coat/purse checks or pat downs. This whole thing is so surreal.

A club shouldn't necessarily need to do that, though.

Few places I go or went to feel the need to do that.

Luisito · #**5988** Posted **Sep 6, 2022, 2:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

As I said, mafia hits. And then a bit of a lull.

Then biker gangs, but they were forcefully dismantled in the early to mid 90s.

And now a pretty long lull.

Looking at those numbers again, I am not sure we could attribute those high numbers to Mafia hits. From 81 to 85 thats over 500 murders. The biker wars between 92 -2002 produced around 162 casualties, and the bikers were more wreckless than the mafia. There had to be something else going on.

Acajack · #**5989** Posted **Sep 6, 2022, 7:42 PM**

Something going down in James Smith Cree Nation right now.

kwoldtimer · #**5990** Posted **Sep 6, 2022, 8:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Something going down in James Smith Cree Nation right now.

Reported sighting.

kwoldtimer · #**5991** Posted **Sep 6, 2022, 9:08 PM**

False alarm, seemingly.

SignalHillHiker · #**5992** Posted **Sep 6, 2022, 9:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hali87

CBC: Man charged in fatal Sask. stabbings found dead, other accused still at large, RCMP say

"One of the two accused RCMP are seeking in connection with a string of fatal stabbings in Saskatchewan on Sunday has been found dead, police confirmed Monday.

Rhonda Blackmore, commanding officer of the Saskatchewan RCMP, said Damien Sanderson, 31, was found dead with wounds that did not appear to be self-inflicted."

The flags on government buildings here are half mast - I believe in morning of Cabot Martin, but potentially for SK. The Ukrainian flag outside Confederation Building has been temporarily replaced with the (quite similar) SK flag.

kwoldtimer · #**5993** Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 10:03 PM**

They got him.

whatnext · #**5994** Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 1:13 AM**

Apparently he has died so we will never know the full story behind this tragedy.

MonkeyRonin · #**5995** Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 5:29 AM**

Apparently this is another case of an individual with a long history of violent crime who's been arrested & released several times over the past decade:

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Sanderson tried to kill one of the mass stabbing victims before, court records show

Records reveal attempted murder of father-in-law, long history of assaulting his partner

Katie Nicholson, Carly Thomas · CBC News · Posted: Sep 07, 2022 11:00 PM ET

The prime suspect in the recent mass stabbing in Saskatchewan tried to kill one of its victims seven years ago, court records reveal.

Those records say Myles Sanderson tried to kill his father-in-law, Earl Burns, in January 2015 by repeatedly stabbing him with a knife. He also assaulted another Burns family member. Sanderson was convicted and sentenced to two years less a day.

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The court records say Sanderson was also convicted in 2018 for trying to stab two other men in the First Nation with a cheese knife.

They also show a long history of intimate partner violence charges and convictions. Sanderson was first charged with assault against his partner in 2011. That charge was eventually dropped.

A year later Sanderson was brought up on fresh assault charges for attacking her. He was convicted and handed 18 months probation and ordered to stay away from alcohol and drugs. He was also ordered to undergo counselling for anger management and domestic violence and to complete an addictions program.

He was charged again in 2013 for assaulting the same woman and stealing a car, after which he was handed another 18 months probation. Sanderson was once again ordered to stay away from alcohol and start addictions counselling.

New charges were laid against him for assaulting her again in 2015 and 2018.

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In November 2017 he was charged in Regina with both assaulting someone and possessing a sawed-off shotgun. He was also charged on the same day with robbing a restaurant.

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After serving two-thirds of that sentence he was eligible for statutory release in August 2021. By November his release was suspended when it emerged he lied about staying with his ex-partner, in breach of conditions.

But in February the Parole Board of Canada lifted that suspension.

"It is the Board's opinion that you will not present an undue risk to society if released on statutory release and that your release will contribute to the protection of society by facilitating your reintegration into society as a law–abiding citizen," the board said in its decision.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sande...ords-1.6575560

Luisito · #**5996** Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 1:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

Apparently this is another case of an individual with a long history of violent crime who's been arrested & released several times over the past decade:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sande...ords-1.6575560

How the hell was this guy even free after all those charges??? I know people that have done longer for much much less. Attempted murder, several assualts, a gun chage and robbery and hes out??? What a f***ing joke.

Airboy · #**5997** Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 3:10 PM**

While that was going on in Sask, we had a lock down in a part of town yesterday. A random stabbing attack on 3 people in the NE of the city. 2 injured 1 dead. There was a manhunt for a couple of hours but did catch the guy.

niwell · #**5998** Posted **Sep 9, 2022, 11:34 AM**

Horrible tragedy for those involved aside, there's some really weird stuff about this. Wonder if we'll ever know what really happened. Shades of NS (though obviously different in a lot of ways).

Acajack · #**5999** Posted **Sep 9, 2022, 1:13 PM**

Montréal 22 (ex-spousal murder added to the total)

Acajack · #**6000** Posted **Sep 9, 2022, 1:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by niwell

Horrible tragedy for those involved aside, there's some really weird stuff about this. Wonder if we'll ever know what really happened. Shades of NS (though obviously different in a lot of ways).

My wife and I have been discussing this.

How does a guy who was driving 150 kmh down country roads while being chased by the police, and was arrested conscious, standing up and resisting, end up dead from something "self-inflicted" not too long afterwards?

Given that they have anti-suicide protocols in place to prevent someone from for example hanging themselves with their belt, the only thing we can come up with is that he ingested lots of drugs before the chase and they hadn't had their full lethal effect yet.