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[sentinel]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Then show me an example of a better large-scale observation, cuz I've never seen one

The only one that even comes close would be the Eiffel Tower.

http://amlgm.com/tower/39a1vncvq260gee8vgwvbracupzqf2


Tokyo Skytree




Canton Tower


Berliner Fernsehturm, Germany

And many many more throughout the world. The design of the one for the 78 casino proposal is lazy as fuck. Developers can and should try harder.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by sentinel

And many many more throughout the world. The design of the one for the 78 casino proposal is lazy as fuck. Developers can and should try harder.

I totally disagree.

I like the proposed 78 tower far more than the examples you posted.

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

I totally disagree.

I like the proposed 78 tower far more than the examples you posted.

Oh c'mon!! Give me a break Steely.

[sentinel]

Here's some more
https://www.cntraveler.com/galleries...ervation-decks

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by sentinel

Oh c'mon!! Give me a break Steely.

Give you a break about what?

The 78's observation tower is much better IMO. It's pure Chicago.

You are certainly free to disagree, but you ain't gonna change my mind.

[bhawk66]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Then show me an example of a better large-scale observation, cuz I've never seen one

The only one that even comes close would be the Eiffel Tower.

Oh jeebus. It's hard to be polite sometimes. LOL and j/k. That thing isn't 99 degrees close to the Eifel tower.

That structure is a complete insult to intelligence.

Fak sakes. Put up a giant silo. It's an elevator shaft with a steel I-beam skirt. Its gross.

No offense to you Steely. Everyone's opinion is just that.

[Steely Dan]

^ well, you know what they say about opinions and assholes....

[bhawk66]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

^ well, you know what they say about opinions and assholes....

I do. And this was mine. This could potentially be a major decision for the city of Chicago. Lasting decades. Potentially centuries. This is the piece of shit you'd be proud of? They present this a flash in a pan. Like "click bait". But that's BS. This structure, as it stands now, and I realize it could change in design, but as it is now, is a complete joke. It borders on sad. I would be embarrassed by it in a city I have some much admiration of.

[marothisu]

The traffic at all the sites will suck, so I mean my final votes are between the Tribune site and The 78. From an urban development infill perspective, the 78 is going to happen with or without a casino so picking the Tribune site would be a net gain for the city in that realm. I don't have a problem with either of the proposals though. And again, traffic is going to suck no matter what they pick.

The 78 proposal is the better looking and bolder proposal, but in typical current boring Chicago fashion they'll probably pick the understated but still decently nice Bally's proposal. It's also close to West Loop/Fulton Market and right near where Onni is going to build 2500 new units with more riverfront parks. Not far from Lincoln Yards. And they have no plans for increased public transit for anything. Traffic is going to suck, but I digress. At least some are on the river so they can utilize that. How cool would it be if you were a high roller and could pull up to a casino in your yacht?

The 78, from an employee perspective, gives more opportunities to various communities on the south and west side OTOH in a few different ways.

$50 says they pick Bally's though. It was also estimated at the highest potential economic output.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by bhawk66

This is the piece of shit you'd be proud of?

From the context of my last several posts in this thread, it should be clear to you that I don't see it as a piece of shit at all.

Quite the opposite; I think it's spectacular!

here is a tall bold slugger set vivid against the little soft observation towers



I hope the 78 casino gets chosen and I hope they build that awesome observation tower.

[thegoatman]

The 78 will have an underground red line station. If they pick the Tribune, they need to add an L station there.

[bnk]

About the observation tower

Someone posted that it would not include an elevator or is that just fake news


Very few unhealthy people can walk over 1000 feet vertically.


Somone pls tell me this point of concern was either Joking or serious.

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

The 78 will have an underground red line station. If they pick the Tribune, they need to add an L station there.

It would probably have to be the blue line. A station between Grand and Chicago. I don't know what the tunnel route looks like between those two stations but I guess a new tunnel would have to be added to connect them if there were to be a station near the Tribune site.

[gandalf612]

I'll support whichever proposal is most likely to pull the bachelorettes out of Boystown

[CaptainJilliams]

Originally Posted by marothisu

$50 says they pick Bally's though. It was also estimated at the highest potential economic output.

Yeah, if the money is where it's at, the Tribune site will be selected given it would be the largest in terms of gambling with 3600 positions.

The 78 would be the smallest in terms of gambling positions and tax revenue, so that does hurt its case despite the added observation tower and easier access to transit.

I just want to see the 78 get built out so bad, that land is screaming for development. At least in my mind having the casino there guarantees the neighborhood gets built.

[r18tdi]

Originally Posted by BruceP

All this "due diligence" is fine, but it's been, what, 2 years or more since the legislation was finally passed? And was no preliminary due diligence done in the decades of Chicago pushing for it? Every day that passes, the city is throwing away tax revenues. Just built the damn thing already.

And Lightfoot wasted how many months forming committees making sure that casino project would help underserved neighborhoods? Only to drop the thing just outside River North...

I will say that the Trib site also benefits from having the temporary casino building on the north side of Chicago Avenue pretty much ready to go as soon as they get a green light.
As much as I'd like to see Medinah Temple reopen its doors, a temp casino aint it.

[HomrQT]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Give you a break about what?

The 78's observation tower is much better IMO. It's pure Chicago.

You are certainly free to disagree, but you ain't gonna change my mind.

How about this one?

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive

It would probably have to be the blue line. A station between Grand and Chicago. I don't know what the tunnel route looks like between those two stations but I guess a new tunnel would have to be added to connect them if there were to be a station near the Tribune site.

It runs under Milwaukee Ave I think, so what you are saying wouldn't do much. If money wasnt an issue then I'd say to build a new subway like that connects to the blue line and goes up near this site, into goose Island (for the upcoming new 2500 units Onni is building) and then to Lincoln Yards.

You could start with just a few stops really

[ithakas]

Originally Posted by marothisu

It runs under Milwaukee Ave I think, so what you are saying wouldn't do much. If money wasnt an issue then I'd say to build a new subway like that connects to the blue line and goes up near this site, into goose Island (for the upcoming new 2500 units Onni is building) and then to Lincoln Yards.

You could start with just a few stops really

This is a great idea and seems like one of the best stretches the city could invest in upgraded service for, given all the new development nodes it hits. I'm not sure if Halsted is wide enough but BRT could be an option too?

[Randomguy34]

^ The River District site would develop a bus-only transitway through the site, which would be a part of the larger North Branch Transitway from Union Station to Lincoln Yards