HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Transportation


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #5301  
Old Posted May 22, 2009, 3:45 PM
Abner Abner is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 577
Quote:
Originally Posted by denizen467 View Post
Is/was the Mid-City Transitway envisioned to ever go beyond Ford City (like heading east to Englewood or something) ?
Yes, the concept would be to turn east and take the tracks roughly along 75th all the way over to the Red Line. Remember the 79th bus is the busiest route in the city.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5302  
Old Posted May 22, 2009, 3:59 PM
OhioGuy OhioGuy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by k1052 View Post
It would be nice if some of that funding could find it's way into rebuilding State/Lake.
Along with all three Wabash stations which are giant eyesores and pitifully dilapidated.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5303  
Old Posted May 22, 2009, 4:26 PM
k1052 k1052 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioGuy View Post
Along with all three Wabash stations which are giant eyesores and pitifully dilapidated.
The plan to combine Randolph/Wabash and Madison/Wabash into one new Washington/Wabash station makes the most sense. Adams can probably skate by for a while with a good cleaning, some new paint, and replacement of the wood platform deck.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5304  
Old Posted May 22, 2009, 4:26 PM
jpIllInoIs's Avatar
jpIllInoIs jpIllInoIs is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,213
^^ Whenever the Wabash stations are rebuilt, it wont be all 3, they will consolidate to 2 stations just like they did on the Wells street station rebuilds. The 2 new stations will have longer platforms, and multiple stairwell entrances, most likely a Randloph/Washington and then a Madison/Monroe or Monroe/Adams alignment.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5305  
Old Posted May 22, 2009, 5:00 PM
VivaLFuego's Avatar
VivaLFuego VivaLFuego is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Blue Island
Posts: 6,480
The most recent plans I've seen (as of a couple years ago) have a Washington/Wabash station connected to the Garland Building. I'd be curious to know how many people transfer between Millenium Station and the L at Randolph, as this is one of the few locations where there is very good connectivity between the two systems, and anecdotally during rush hour there are a decent number of commuters headed between the two. Moving the station a block south would lose that, but maybe it would ultimately be a negligible loss.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5306  
Old Posted May 22, 2009, 7:16 PM
Mr Downtown's Avatar
Mr Downtown Mr Downtown is offline
Urbane observer
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,387
I believe Adams/Wabash is covered by the preservation consent agreement that requires it to be saved.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5307  
Old Posted May 23, 2009, 12:47 AM
ardecila's Avatar
ardecila ardecila is offline
TL;DR
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: the city o'wind
Posts: 16,384
^^ Why? What is there left to preserve at Adams/Wabash? It's such a chimera of various additions that it doesn't seem worth saving. The most distinctive features, the Plexiglas roofs, were added in the 1980s.

The station that merits preservation is Madison/Wabash, or at least the Inner Loop stationhouse at the aforementioned stop.
__________________
la forme d'une ville change plus vite, hélas! que le coeur d'un mortel...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5308  
Old Posted May 23, 2009, 1:24 AM
Mr Downtown's Avatar
Mr Downtown Mr Downtown is offline
Urbane observer
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,387
From http://www.chicago-l.org/stations/adams-wabash.html

An agreement with the US Department of the Interior and the Illinois State Historic Preservation Office protected the Loop Elevated structure but only required two stations to be retained. One station, Quincy, was to be restored to near-original condition. The other, Adams/Wabash, was to be retained and rehabilitated but significantly modernized. All of the other stations would be rebuilt and some relocated.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5309  
Old Posted May 23, 2009, 2:48 AM
arenn arenn is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 131
Word to the wise: never, ever sign a consent {decree,agreement}
__________________
My Urban Affairs Blog: http://www.urbanophile.com/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5310  
Old Posted May 23, 2009, 9:02 AM
denizen467 denizen467 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,212
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abner View Post
Yes, the concept would be to turn east and take the tracks roughly along 75th all the way over to the Red Line. Remember the 79th bus is the busiest route in the city.
Thanks for emphasizing that point - I'm curious enough to trek down to 79th and drive it myself to see that part of the city.

Given how busy the 79th bus is, I hope a rail alignment 4 blocks north would still be practicable for riders there.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5311  
Old Posted May 23, 2009, 2:29 PM
Busy Bee's Avatar
Busy Bee Busy Bee is offline
Show me the blueprints
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: on the artistic spectrum
Posts: 10,375
Whatever the fate of the 'superstation' is, I'd love to see the stainless steel CTA shield on Randolph/Wabash saved and restored. According to chicago-l.org is used to have neon glowing behind it. How bad ass is that?
__________________
Everything new is old again

There is no goodness in him, and his power to convince people otherwise is beyond understanding
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5312  
Old Posted May 24, 2009, 1:56 AM
Nowhereman1280 Nowhereman1280 is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pungent Onion, Illinois
Posts: 8,492
^^^ Yeah that sign is a total BAMF. I am obsessed with it and nearly everyone I point it out too goes "wow that's cool, I never even noticed it before".
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5313  
Old Posted May 24, 2009, 9:09 PM
Zerton's Avatar
Zerton Zerton is offline
Ω
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,553
Anyone know when the 35th street Metra stop is supposed to be completed? I'm sure its in here somewhere I'm lazy today.
__________________
If all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed, if all records told the same tale, then the lie passed into history and became truth. -Orwell
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5314  
Old Posted May 30, 2009, 4:44 AM
ardecila's Avatar
ardecila ardecila is offline
TL;DR
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: the city o'wind
Posts: 16,384
Does anybody know why the Oak Park stations on the Green Line weren't made ADA-accessible in the 1990s rehab? Also, Garfield and 87th weren't made ADA-accessible in the recent Dan Ryan rehab.

It struck me that these are notable omissions in what should be an entirely accessible system. The fact that many stations still lack elevators adds a large degree of confusion when using the system for handicapped riders.

Ordinarily, I'm not an ADA hawk (I certainly am aware of the annoying constraints it places on building design) but a recent trip to DC showed me the value that a completely-accessible system holds, as I saw quite a few wheelchair-bound riders during the week I was there, whereas I rarely see them on the L.
__________________
la forme d'une ville change plus vite, hélas! que le coeur d'un mortel...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5315  
Old Posted May 30, 2009, 5:05 PM
Mr Downtown's Avatar
Mr Downtown Mr Downtown is offline
Urbane observer
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,387
^Probably because they weren't part of the rehab project, which primarily involved rebuilding the 1890s structure. The Oak Park stations were only built when the L was relocated to the embankment in 1962.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5316  
Old Posted May 30, 2009, 8:21 PM
BVictor1's Avatar
BVictor1 BVictor1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 10,419
Jackson Viaduct at Union Station
Reconstruction Project
Canal to Chicago River





The Chicago Department of Transportation is rebuilding the Jackson Boulevard viaduct between Canal Street and the Chicago River. The viaduct spans Unions Station's south passenger platforms and 16 tracks.

The work will entail building new piers, superstructure, roadway, sidewalk, as well as repairing the Jackson bridge and sidewalk. New lighting and upgraded signals will also be included.


Traffic Impacts

Jackson viaduct -- Closed from Canal to Wacker

Jackson Detour: Clinton (south) to Harrison (east) to Franklin (north), back to Jackson

Canal Intersection with Jackson -- reduced to two lanes for two months in fall of 2009.

Pedestrian Impacts

Pedestrian access to Union Station will be maintained from both the east and west. Pedestrians can cross the Jackson bridge to access the east side of Union Station.
__________________
titanic1
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5317  
Old Posted May 31, 2009, 3:48 PM
Taft Taft is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 638
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVictor1 View Post
Jackson Viaduct at Union Station
Reconstruction Project
Canal to Chicago River
Besides a rebuilt bridge/sidewalk, does anyone know what the positive impact on commuters will be?
__________________
We are building a religion, we are making it bigger.
We are widening the corridor and adding more lanes.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5318  
Old Posted Jun 1, 2009, 2:23 AM
ardecila's Avatar
ardecila ardecila is offline
TL;DR
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: the city o'wind
Posts: 16,384
Speaking of CDOT, I saw their Anticipated Contracts list for 2009. There's some good stuff on here... lots of stuff that I'm looking forward to as an infrastructure geek. This is, of course, a highly tentative list, and it presumes that the city will get enough funds for the entire list, which is doubtful. Also, these are projects that the city is bidding this year. Even if contractors are selected, construction may not finish by the end of this year, or even begin. I expect some of the smaller projects to be completed, however.

Lake/Ogden CTA Column Relocation (I'm hoping this will be like the job they did on the Brown Line at Wacker Drive - a huge truss installed to remove obstructing columns in the middle of Ogden)
LaSalle Street Intermodal Transfer Center
Morgan Green Line CTA Station
Congress Parkway Streetscape - Michigan to Wells
US-41 Relocation - Contracts II/III (this is the major arterial road that will be built through the South Works site)
Wacker Drive Reconstruction - Randolph-Adams/Adams-Congress (split into two megaprojects to get varying bids)
130th/Torrence Grade Separations (a major project in CREATE)
35th Street Pedestrian Bridge (on the lakefront. this one has been postponed many times - a good indicator of how tentative this list is)

The remaining 90% of the list is resurfacing and much-needed streetscape improvements on major streets, some in the central area. There are also quite a few bridge replacement/renovation projects, like the one BVic posted above.

The Full List
__________________
la forme d'une ville change plus vite, hélas! que le coeur d'un mortel...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5319  
Old Posted Jun 1, 2009, 9:13 AM
denizen467 denizen467 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,212
Quote:
Originally Posted by ardecila View Post
LaSalle Street Intermodal Transfer Center
Wacker Drive Reconstruction - Randolph-Adams/Adams-Congress (split into two megaprojects to get varying bids)
What's the LaSalle project?

And the Wacker project really needs to go to Harrison, and include all those crazy ramps linking Lower-to-Eisenhower, Upper/Lower-to-Harrison, Eisenhower-to-Upper and Lower, et cetera, no? Or are they waiting to know whether/how a Wacker extension southwards would be built?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5320  
Old Posted Jun 1, 2009, 1:41 PM
Mr Downtown's Avatar
Mr Downtown Mr Downtown is offline
Urbane observer
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,387
I'm pretty sure the Wacker project does include the Congress ramps.

The LaSalle project is a transfer area for CTA buses at Congress/Financial:

Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Transportation
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 8:18 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.