Lower Mainland Population Thread

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Sheba

The only 'arena' I can remember being proposed in Surrey is in Bear Creek Park but it's a lot smaller than that.

Not a real propsal but one of McCallum's crazy fantasies.

[Migrant_Coconut]

I really don't see any sports teams leaving Vancouver within the next 20-30 years; if the NBA's constant hints mean anything, we're just as likely to gain new ones.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Exactly. It would be nice to be able to go to a few of those types of events outside of Vancouver - and to have some of them stay open until *gasp* 11pm. As is it feels like most places are shut down for the night and people are home by 7pm.



The only 'arena' I can remember being proposed in Surrey is in Bear Creek Park but it's a lot smaller than that.

There was another concept of an arena. The Bear Creek concept was that of a stadium. There was a thread about the arena in the sports section of this website that identifies details.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I really don't see any sports teams leaving Vancouver within the next 20-30 years; if the NBA's constant hints mean anything, we're just as likely to gain new ones.

Has the NBA hinted at a franchise in Vancouver?

I know the MLB shortlisted Vancouver along with Portland, Vegas, Montreal, and Nashville as cities which could be awarded expansion franchises or where existing franchises could relocate to.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

To compete with Langley Events Centre? I'm not sure the area needs 2 of those.

If Surrey wants to put on its big kid pants and compete with the CoV on events, they'll need a venue in their downtown. Plus the CoV gets on just fine with 4 stadiums/arenas larger than the Langley Events Centre, I'm sure Langley/Surrey (which already has more people than the CoV) can handle two. Doubt it'll happen though.

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

What old civic centre? LoL

Stuff like the old Surrey City Hall were literally in the middle of nowhere.

And no I wasn’t referring to the crazy stadium proposal from earlier this year. I was referring to the arena study that called for an arena of 5-10,000 seats.

Yeah the old Surrey City Hall surrounded by parking lots, it was in the physical middle of the city though, so for a car dependent suburb it made sense. There was a bit of an uproar when it was moved, since it made for a longer drive for South Surrey/Cloverdale residents.

Curious to see which study you're referring to? Can only find these articles and they're more back-of-the-napkin proposals than actual studies:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surr...oposal-opinion

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news...-hockey-arena/

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by djmk

It's not just "nightlife" but many forms of cultural amenities.

Theaters to see plays or live music, comedy clubs, art galleries, etc. And if they do exist, they are owned by the municipality, nowhere near nice restaurants, attached to high schools or community centers or city hall, and devoid of anything cool.

there is no Rickshaw or Vogue or any of those types of venues outside Vancouver... (well maybe a couple in North Van or new west)

Yes, even West Van is bad for that with the Kay Meek Centre stuck up around the Upper Level beside West Vanc. Secondary surrounded by SFH. Not an exactly an area to hang out and get drinks before a show.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by mcj

If Surrey wants to put on its big kid pants and compete with the CoV on events, they'll need a venue in their downtown. Plus the CoV gets on just fine with 4 stadiums/arenas larger than the Langley Events Centre, I'm sure Langley/Surrey (which already has more people than the CoV) can handle two. Doubt it'll happen though.



Yeah the old Surrey City Hall surrounded by parking lots, it was in the physical middle of the city though, so for a car dependent suburb it made sense. There was a bit of an uproar when it was moved, since it made for a longer drive for South Surrey/Cloverdale residents.

Curious to see which study you're referring to? Can only find these articles and they're more back-of-the-napkin proposals than actual studies:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surr...oposal-opinion

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news...-hockey-arena/

My apologies, study as in looked into, rather than a formal study, and yes that is the correct arena mentioned about in the article you posted. It was just at a preliminary discussion/ concept phase (not sure if it’s moved any since then), but the city was already mentioning and area that did zero to enhance the nightlife of the city.

[Sheba]

As this seems to have turned into the sports fields thread...

Expansion Vancouver FC gave fans a glimpse of its new home Thursday at Willoughby Community Park at the Langley Events Centre.

The fledgling Canadian Premier League franchise released an artist’s rendering of its planned soccer-specific stadium — a modular design that will accommodate up to 6,560 fans on game day in its inaugural 2023 season.

Amazingly the stadium is scheduled to be completed in some six weeks.

“It’s quite a surprising thing that we don’t see much of in North America,” said Dean Shillington, part of Vancouver FC’s ownership group SixFive Sports & Entertainment. “It’s a prefabricated product basically. If you think of how a prefabricated house would be assembled. It’s the same thing.”

Think IKEA or LEGO on a stadium-size scale.

Work is underway at the site to lay the concrete foundations and site services that will support the prefabricated structure. The first shipping containers housing prefabricated parts of the facility arrived Wednesday at the Port of Vancouver.

The containers are taken to the stadium where parts are assembled “like a LEGO stadium.”

The plan calls for the stadium to be ready for Vancouver’s first home match May 7 against Cavalry FC. The expansion team will play its first three league games on the road, kicking off the season April 15 at Pacific FC.

The club says the venue “is designed to grow with the club and its surrounding community.”

“We hope over the coming years to add to the stands, add a covered roof to the structure and build it out as we hope the sport and the community build out,” Shillington said.

The stadium is owned by and will be operated by the Township of Langley. The soccer franchise is involved in its construction through its parent company’s affiliate SixFive Stadium Experience — a business that came out of the group’s experiences with Pacific FC’s Starlight Stadium in Langford and the new Langley venue.

Such stadiums range in price from $10 million to $25 million. Shillington says his company already has a number of stadium projects across the country.

“This is by far the most affordable for municipalities and the quickest timeline for anyone to execute in any realistic way,” Shillington said.

Such projects can be done in eight to 12 months from start to finish, he added.

The modular design is based on the likes of Empire Field, the club said. Empire Field was a temporary soccer and CFL stadium built at Hastings Park, built to accommodate local teams while a new retractable roof was installed at B.C. Place Stadium in 2010 and 2011.

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Photo by HO /THE CANADIAN PRESS

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Sheba

As this seems to have turned into the sports fields thread...

Bout time a thread turned into something other than a transit fantasy thread

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by mcj

Bout time a thread turned into something other than a transit fantasy thread

Well not a transit fantasy is that there will be a RapidBus on 200th at some point (it's in their future planning documents). Good thing as this won't be anywhere near the Expo extension - it will however be near a couple schools (and a couple churches).

[djmk]

Originally Posted by Sheba

As this seems to have turned into the sports fields thread...

Definitely temp-ire stadium had its charms. except in the rain or the blazing sun

modular is the future imho

[SpongeG]

they were just talking about this on CKNW, was listening on my commute home a bit. Except on there, they said it would be ready to go at the end of the year.

[jollyburger]

Statistics Canada’s latest population data shows another big quarterly interprovincial shift in British Columbia’s population, with almost 13,000 people migrating to other provinces or territories from July through September. Of those, 9,589 chose Alberta as their new home.

However, B.C.’s overall population continues to grow — up 1.1 per cent through the first nine months of the year, with international immigration the biggest contributor.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...istics-canada/

Stats

Most of Alberta's population gains through interprovincial migration were due to its exchanges with Ontario and British Columbia. In contrast, British Columbia experienced five consecutive quarters of interprovincial migration losses for the first time since the first quarter of 2013.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...31219c-eng.htm

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...istics-canada/

Stats
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...31219c-eng.htm

It's important to note that these aren't stats, in the sense that they're data from a survey, or census. They are described as "Canada's population estimates, third quarter 2023". It should be a reasonably accurate take on the situation, but after the census data becomes available, StatsCan revisit their previous estimates and revise them, sometimes by quite a bit.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Changing City

It's important to note that these aren't stats, in the sense that they're data from a survey, or census. They are described as "Canada's population estimates, third quarter 2023". It should be a reasonably accurate take on the situation, but after the census data becomes available, StatsCan revisit their previous estimates and revise them, sometimes by quite a bit.

But from the notes on the Stats Canada page it seems like they are relying on some more timely data especially with the new immigrant numbers?

[csbvan]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...istics-canada/

Stats



https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...31219c-eng.htm

That is not correct. BC didn't grow 1.1% in the first 9 months of the year, looking at the data. It appears BC is heading for around 2.8% growth YOY.