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Old Posted Aug 18, 2022, 6:39 PM
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Some info on Center City, Philadelphia. It's quite affluent and educated. However Greater Center City is only about 10% of the popuation of Philadelphia proper. The rest of the city is still very working class and lower income, and overall per capita income remains well below the metro average.

https://www.centercityphila.org/uplo...own-living.pdf
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chicago income map showing the large swath of lower income census tracts from the west side clear across a good chunk of the southside.

the blue blob of wealth over greater downtown and spreading north/northwest is by no means inconsequential, but it's clear to see that the city of chicago, overall, is lower income than its burbs.

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I've heard Chicago described as 1/3 San Francisco, 2/3 Detroit.
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I've heard Chicago described as 1/3 San Francisco, 2/3 Detroit.
more like:

1/3 SF
1/3 detroit
1/3 el paso





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Is that map of Chicago from the census website?
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Some info on Center City, Philadelphia. It's quite affluent and educated. However Greater Center City is only about 10% of the popuation of Philadelphia proper. The rest of the city is still very working class and lower income, and overall per capita income remains well below the metro average.

https://www.centercityphila.org/uplo...own-living.pdf
It's a bit of an oversimplification to say the rest of the city is poor. Northwest Philadelphia is mostly middle to upper-middle class, with some neighborhoods like Chestnut Hill never losing their cache even during the "bad" period, and most of the remainder having since gentrified. The bulk of South Philly and the outer portions of Northeast Philly are also mostly lower-middle class.

Just about everything else is poor though.
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I said working class and lower income, didn't say it was all poor.
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Interesting to see the disparity of household income to per capita with Miami and Miami-Dade County. Miami has fewer kids and dual earners vs the suburbs. Incomes increase with distance from the City of Miami.
For Miami:
Miami (City):
Median Income: $44,268
Per capita: $31,437

Miami-Dade County:
Median Income: $53,975
Per capita: $29,598

Broward County:
Median Income: $60,922
Per capita: $34,063

Palm Beach County:
Median Income: $65,015
Per capita: $40,957

Martin County:
Median Income: $65,821
Per capita: $43,758

Monroe County: $72,012
Per capita: $47,382
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here's a philly income map to the same scale as the chicago one above.

not as much core wealth as chicago, but suburban wealth is much closer-in.

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and here's detroit to the same scale.

like philly and chicago, broad swaths of low income areas, but very little core wealth.

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That Detroit income map almost looks like a Metro Detroit race/ethnicity map. Pretty sad.

For Philly, you see why the area has a relative gritty, working class feel when traveling through by train or car between NY and DC. Almost all the low income tracts are along the main rail/road routes.
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Is this per capita income? Median HH income?
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Is this per capita income? Median HH income?
i pulled them all from this site: http://www.justicemap.org/
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That Detroit income map almost looks like a Metro Detroit race/ethnicity map. Pretty sad.
You can also quite clearly see the boundary lines of the city of Detroit.
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Distance from city:

Chevy Chase MD (DC) 7 miles
Gladwyne (Philadelphia) 12 miles
Winnetka (Chicago) 20 miles
Bloomfield Hills (Detroit) 26 miles
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Distance from city:

Chevy Chase MD (DC) 7 miles
Gladwyne (Philadelphia) 12 miles
Winnetka (Chicago) 20 miles
Bloomfield Hills (Detroit) 26 miles
are those driving distances?

as the crow flies, the metra station in the heart of downtown winnetka is 16.3 miles NNW of state/madison.
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Driving distance, yes.
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Driving distance, yes.
oh gotcha. driving distances can be weird depending on time of day.

google must've given you an expressway route, which is usually faster, though longer because the kennedy/edens swings you way out west.

if you were gonna drive from state/madison up to downtown winnetka right now, the fastest route would actually only be 18.3 miles up LSD and then on surface streets (ridge to green bay rd.) through the north shore.
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Vancouver is really the only small city proper (relative to metro) in Canada.

City of Vancouver $62,250
Greater Vancouver $56,650

Wealth is concentrated on the city's West Side as well as the wealthy North Shore suburb of West Vancouver.

Montreal is trickier, given the amalgamation and then deamalgamation etc. and would take time to calculate. The independent city of Westmount is sorta like Brookline. I may do a calculation based on federal election districts.
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Inner Montreal (9 federal ridings) $55,943
City of Montreal $50,120
Montreal Island $53,250
Montreal Census Metropolitan Area $53,600
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