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Here is how Genting describes its planned resort:
Cost: $3 billion
Site: 13.9 acres
Square feet: 10 million
Floors: 65
Construction jobs: 15,000 direct and indirect
Permanent jobs: 30,000
Convention and meeting space: 700,000 square feet (including ballroom)
Ballroom: 200,000 square feet (billed as the largest in the United States)
Hotels: Four – super luxury, contemporary, convention and family
Hotel units: 5,200
Residential units: 1,000
Swimming lagoon: 3.6 acres and 1,000 feet-long
Retail: 250,000, square feet
Restaurants: More than 50
funded by 25,000kg of yayo
Wow! That was best ever I've heard it before. Isn't that 65 floors instead of going up 80 or 90 floors? Why not have to additional more floors?
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while i like the concept, imo it looks too messy for me. other than the curves, these towers aren't related whatsoever. absolutworld looks amazing because both towers are related. these... not so much. it's a bunch of blobs stuck on top of another blob.

the towers might work if they were a continuation of the waves in the podium. they'd be more vertical and less oval. and if they wanted a centerpiece they could leave the tallest at the end.

the podium doesn't bother me as much. it could use some setbacks here and there and it'd be amazing if they could have waterfalls and hanging gardens all around. i hate presentations where they say'inspired by nature' but there's not much nature going on.
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Hehe, tough crowd. You'd give a coral reef the third degree.
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Here is how Genting describes its planned resort:
Cost: $3 billion
Site: 13.9 acres
Square feet: 10 million
Floors: 65
Construction jobs: 15,000 direct and indirect
Permanent jobs: 30,000
Convention and meeting space: 700,000 square feet (including ballroom)
Ballroom: 200,000 square feet (billed as the largest in the United States)
Hotels: Four – super luxury, contemporary, convention and family
Hotel units: 5,200
Residential units: 1,000
Swimming lagoon: 3.6 acres and 1,000 feet-long
Retail: 250,000, square feet
Restaurants: More than 50
funded by 25,000kg of yayo
I appreciate the attempt at humor , but in reality this 3 bil project will be funded by a 43 bil resorts/gaming company that recognizes the possibility that Miami's already formidable tourism cache has the potential to justify such an investment. It speaks to the fact that Miami is an international lure and is a leader in the tourism industry, which is as much an industry as any other no matter how much people on these forums try to dismiss or denigrate it. The "yayo" days are past by a couple decades.... water under the bridge.... old news. It's just not prevalent in our economy as these vestigial perceptions persist in promoting. In reality the drug trade has moved to greener, easier pastures. Miami is no longer the center financially or geographically. I concede that it isn't gone, we're the center of finance for Latin America after all, but this notion that drug traffic is the driving force for everything down here is patently false. <steps off the soapbox>
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In other words, Genting could buy Edmonton.
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http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-09...enting-casino/

Three Miami mayors block Genting casino


Joe Carollo warns that Genting's plans for the Miami Herald property will gobble up public land.

By Francisco Alvarado
Sep 29 2011

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Joe Carollo's Chevy Impala idles at a red light on North Bayshore Drive at NE 14th Street. Dressed in a neat white polo shirt tucked into pressed khaki pants, the former Miami mayor is on a short tour of what could be the most ambitious redevelopment project in the city's history. "Here is where the Genting Group wants to put a fountain," he says with a scowl.

The light turns green. As Carollo cruises toward 1 Herald Plaza, he points to the perimeter of the Miami Herald's employee parking lots. "Those sidewalks belong to the city," Carollo asserts. "In their promotional video, Genting is building over them and this street I'm driving on."

He makes a left past the Omni Metromover station. "That land is owned by the taxpayers too," Carollo declares, gesturing toward the station. "In their presentation, Genting's big lagoon starts where that bus depot and the Metromover station are located." By his calculation, the Malaysian gaming giant's planned megacasino resort will gobble up six acres of publicly owned land and millions of dollars more in air rights.

"This company is like Hernán Cortés marching through Mexico, and the Herald is like the Miami Dolphins cheerleaders," Carollo says, his hands squeezing the wheel. "They are on the sidelines, yelling, 'Go! Go! Go!'"
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Very amazing design....

I can already see it starring in Miami Vice 2!
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Should read "3 Miami mayors mad that they're also not on the take"
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Should read "3 Miami mayors mad that they're also not on the take"
They're probably waiting on a call from Genting (that they're not going to tell us about later).
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Joe Carollo is mad at Gentling? Maybe he can throw "terra cotta" bird house at them like he did to his wife when he was Mayor & was charged with domestic violence! Carollo was a joke of a Mayor & his opinion is worthless.
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Joe Carollo is mad at Gentling? Maybe he can throw "terra cotta" bird house at them like he did to his wife when he was Mayor & was charged with domestic violence! Carollo was a joke of a Mayor & his opinion is worthless.
He looks like the type waiting to be cut in on the deal...

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I'm especially envious of the HUGE vertical mall podium. Congrats Miami!
Yeah me too; we need more of those in the US.
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Court ruling allows legislators to expand casino gaming in South Florida

By Mary Ellen Klas
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TALLAHASSEE A Tallahassee court cleared the way Thursday for legislators to expand gambling in South Florida without a referendum vote, while two key sponsors of a casino bill finished drafting their proposal to allow three resort casinos to operate in Miami-Dade and Broward counties.

The ruling by First District Court of Appeals Judge Marguerite H. Davis was a victory for Hialeah Racetrack and serves as a promising omen for the push by the world’s largest gaming companies to bring resort casinos to Florida.

Davis affirmed a lower court decision, saying the law passed by the Legislature allowing Hialeah Racetrack to offer slot machines was constitutional. She rejected the argument by Flagler Gaming Centers and Calder Race Course, which argued that when voters approved slot machines in Miami-Dade and Broward in 2005 and 2008, they intended to limit the number of permits to the seven pari-mutuels that were currently operating.

Davis said voters did not intend to give the entities “a constitutionally-protected monopoly over slot machine gaming in the state.”

The ruling was hailed by Rep. Erik Fresen, R-Miami, and Sen. Ellyn Bogdanoff, R-Fort Lauderdale, who want legislators to approve their proposal to build three resort casinos in Miami Dade and Broward Counties without first having to seek voter approval. They have filed identical proposals to invite companies to submit bids for three casino licenses to a newly-created Florida Gaming Commission. Each of the bidders would be required to show that they will invest a minimum of $2 billion in capital in each facility.

This gambling commission, which itself will be carefully vetted, will evaluate the bids and select the winners based on a scoring scale that gives preferences to proposals that create the most jobs and complete work the earliest, Bogdanoff said.

The bills also require that the multi-billion dollar resorts give gambling a low profile. Each resort is restricted to using no more than 10 percent of the total square footage for the Las Vegas-style games, such as slot machines, roulette wheels and craps tables. The gambling space also must be segregated from other attractions — so that a visitor can attend the resort without having to see the gambling machines, Fresen said.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/0...#ixzz1a3DtZlf7


It seems that it's full steam ahead at this point! I wouldn't underestimate and bet against the resolve and resources of the companies bidding to get it done above board or under the table. It appears they're lining their ducks rather nicely as the Indians might be included in the conversations. Imagine, there may well be 2 projects totaling 6 billion in investment racing to the finish line!
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Joe Carollo is mad at Gentling? Maybe he can throw "terra cotta" bird house at them like he did to his wife when he was Mayor & was charged with domestic violence! Carollo was a joke of a Mayor & his opinion is worthless.
Yes, he did. He will spent 30-days in county jail. His behavior is not acceptable. He should keep hands off from her.

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Very amazing design....

I can already see it starring in Miami Vice 2!
Hey! Sounds like that, huh?

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http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-09...enting-casino/

Three Miami mayors block Genting casino


Joe Carollo warns that Genting's plans for the Miami Herald property will gobble up public land.

By Francisco Alvarado
Sep 29 2011
Ah, yes. I remember where I visited at Miami Herald before. I haven't see it recently. I know where it is but, its near her old store is right on Biscayne Blvd. She works at Boulevard Liquors for 15 years before she retired. I do miss South Florida very much.
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Miami casino would be bigger than Vegas competitors
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/2...gger-than.html

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Genting expects to spend almost twice that amount. The company, Southeast Asia’s largest casino operator, ignited the gambling frenzy in May by paying $236 million for The Miami Herald’s downtown headquarters. Genting agreed to let the Herald remain in the building rent-free for two years, and then began buying up surrounding real estate, including the Omni retail and hotel complex.

Nearby in Miami’s Park West neighborhood, local developers and the Las Vegas Sands casino company reportedly are planning a gambling resort to rival Genting, and other large land owners, including the Fontainebleau, also want their sites considered. But only Genting has drafted renderings for its proposed resort: six undulating towers rising as high as 58 stories with a mix of apartments and hotel rooms, with an outdoor lagoon, artificial beaches, and 50 restaurants throughout the campus.

With 5,200 rooms, the proposed Genting complex would be as large as any hotel in Vegas, according to data available on casinocity.com, a leading industry site. The country’s largest hotel, the MGM Grand, has 5,044 rooms, and Mandalay Bay boasts 4,756.

Two casinos in the Genting complex would dwarf anything offered on the strip. Plans call for a primary casino measuring about 550,000 square feet in a tower on the Herald site, plus an additional 250,000-square-foot casino in a building on the Omni location, said Sergio Bakas, the Arquitectonica architect supervising the design. He said he expected Resorts World Miami to be the largest casino resort in the world if current plans are approved.

The combined 800,000 footprint is large enough to hold the combined casino floors of three of the biggest in Vegas: the Bellagio, Mandalay Bay and the MGM Grand. Current design assumptions call for about 8,500 slot machines, Bakas said, far more than the 2,500 found at the MGM Grand, the largest casino in Vegas. The 50 restaurants Genting plans for the site roughly doubles what is available in the typical Vegas Strip hotel.

“It certainly seems aggressive,’’ said Brian MacGill, managing director for gaming and lodging for Janney Capital Markets in Philadelphia. “If a casino has 15 or 20 restaurants, that’s considered a lot.”
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Anyone care to predict odds on gaming passing in the state legislature.
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