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Old Posted Aug 10, 2007, 4:12 PM
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HONG KONG | Skyscraper Walls

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Skyscraper walls are becoming a major concern in Hong Kong as developers built new supertall residential skyscrapers of at least 50 stories in redevelopment projects and new projects on reclaimed land. Many sit near the water, and are arranged in a wall-type fashion, prompting concerns from nearby residents that these large masses of buildings are blocking ventilation and increasing the heat island effect.

The objective of this thread is to track such skyscraper wall projects and how planning authorities are addressing concerns from such developments.

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Wall effect buildings are ruining the health of our citizens
28 June 2007
South China Morning Post

Private residential buildings with a screen wall design increase the pressure of life in this city, disrupt its harmony and put at risk cohesive relationships within communities.

Worst of all, they destroy the air-ventilation. This exacerbates the air pollution problems, for which Hong Kong is so famous throughout the world. Unfortunately, despite public concern, there is no sign of an improvement of these problems. This means Hong Kong people are being forced to exist in a suffocating environment.

As I have said, these buildings, once erected, hinder air circulation and promote what is called the "heat island effect". At night, the concrete walls release heat absorbed during the day, leading to hotter nights. More air-conditioning is needed to cope with these hot nights, which raises the ambient temperature and creates a vicious circle.

Our developers prefer to build blocks in long rectangular shapes so residents can have coastal views and this is what causes these huge screens that impede circulation. Most of our best-known property developers have been involved in these projects. Can they honestly claim that they bear no responsibility for what these buildings do?

Sadly, reclaimed land on Hoi Fai Road, the last "ventilation window' for Tai Kok Tsui, has been sold. New buildings will join One SilverSea, the Long Beach and Hampton Place, to form a 200-metre-wide wall screen. Investigations in the local old area reveal that 72.5 per cent of responding residents claimed that ventilation at home in the summer was getting worse, while 43.4 per cent said their families suffered more airway or pulmonary diseases. But the area will be completely blocked and the health of local residents will be badly affected.

Green Sense has made a submission to the Town Planning Board for the residential plot ratio to be cut and for a 10-metre-wide ventilation corridor to be maintained at the north of the lot.

If property developers focus only on profit and continue to construct these buildings which create the wall effect, this merely shows their lack of corporate responsibility and conscience.

I appeal to them to stop what they are doing.

Tam Hoi-pong, president of Green Sense.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2007, 4:45 AM
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haha, the chinese will deep fry them self's
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Hong Kong never gets any wind?
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dallasbrink, stupid, yet funny.

Too bad about the whole banning thing. Life goes on.
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They need to make buildings more air-dynamic and make then thinner because those buildings look way too fat. Dallasbrink was banned.
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dallasbrink, stupid, yet funny.

Too bad about the whole banning thing. Life goes on.


but good lord! i knew that there were alot of these "walls" but not in these numbers!
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From looking at that map, it seems like most of the cooler areas coincide with the areas at higher elevation than the rest of the city. Coincidence?
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haha, the chinese will deep fry them self's
Hahaha, sorry for sinking to the level of the forum's latest banned bigot, but the usually unfunny dimwit actually got a good laugh out of me.
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one of the stupidest comments i've ever read. i cracked right up.
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not too mention those buildings are hideous
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Strangely, if this continues Hong Kong will go from (arguably) the world's most spectacular skyline to just a blob of concrete.

There appears to be a point in the evolution of a neighborhood when you have enough of these blockbusters to transform an identifiable cityscape into just a giant wall.

Who lives in these new generation towers? The rich or more middle class? I find them frightening, though their construction is certainly understandable given extreme space constraints.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2008, 7:51 AM
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Who lives in these new generation towers? The rich or more middle class? I find them frightening, though their construction is certainly understandable given extreme space constraints.
The rich. The views are great and so are the clubhouses that sit on the podium. The developers would care less what happens to the poor people in the low and midrises in the rest of the neighborhood though.
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From looking at that map, it seems like most of the cooler areas coincide with the areas at higher elevation than the rest of the city. Coincidence?
Of course it's not a coincidence. The higher up you go the cooler the atmosphere becomes, although that's probably not a factor within a few thousand feet of sea level. However there's also much more of a breeze on a hill or mountain top, no matter where you are.

I dislike this sort of construction for aesthetic reasons, but I suppose this issue creates a more actionable reason from a public policy perspective.
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haha, the chinese will deep fry them self's
worthless comment from a worthless mind.
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The pathetic grammar just tops it off perfectly.
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Of course it's not a coincidence.
That was a rhetoric question not asking for a response. I was just trying to underline how the media may be looking at a data map and may be spinning that data whichever way it pleases. It's hard to deny that such hunks of concrete damage air circulation, but the newspaper seems to deliberately avoid other reasons, quite obvious ones, when it comes to change in temperature in those areas.
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^I thought the exact same thing when I saw the graphic. Having said that though, it's common knowledge that cities do generate a certain amount of heat that allow for micro-climates. The question therefore is whether or not Hong Kong's skyscraper walls are creating a micro-climate that will make it into a sweltering hell-hole if left unchecked. I doubt that but there is something to be said for making a note of this recent 'weather' development. It's probably not a bad idea to properly study it.
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Yikes, that makes for a hideous skyline on top of the health issues it creates. There must be a better way of incorporating that kind of density.
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