Phoenix Development News (3) - Page 779

CrestedSaguaro · #**15561** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 12:12 AM**

Aspire has construction equipment onsite and digging going. This one is moving

xymox · #**15562** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 4:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Aspire has construction equipment onsite and digging going. This one is moving

Is this site visible via the City of Phoenix north camera by chance?

CrestedSaguaro · #**15563** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by xymox

Is this site visible via the City of Phoenix north camera by chance?

It is, but barely and too grainy to really see anything. I'm also wondering why X doesn't have a construction cam up yet?

PHXFlyer11 · #**15564** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Aspire has construction equipment onsite and digging going. This one is moving

This is the one with all the speculation of height but no renderings?

ASUSunDevil · #**15565** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 4:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11

This is the one with all the speculation of height but no renderings?

No, it's this: http://ccbg-arch.com/project/98

PHXFlyer11 · #**15566** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASUSunDevil

No, it's this: http://ccbg-arch.com/project/98

I can dig it! Same developer as The Stewart right? Looks similar in design.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15567** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 5:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11

I can dig it! Same developer as The Stewart right? Looks similar in design.

Correct. 240' in height. So nearly a twin of Stewart. Glad they kept with the Aspire name. Duo sounded stupid.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15568** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 5:38 PM**

Have some news on Derby. Did some sleuthing around and found out that back between June and July, lawyers for the Derby development hammered out a 36-month build extension with the City of Phoenix from the original agreement that was set to end this coming March. So basically, they have an additional 36 months now to build. Also, changes were submitted at the ground level to include benches and other infrastructural improvements to the previously approved abandonment area along McKinley (attached screenshot of this below).

Also, the parent name, Amstar McKinley LLC has been changed to Derby RR LLC. Yes, Derby is very much alive

ASUSunDevil · #**15569** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 7:30 PM**

^ Nice work, Ronnie!

ASU Diablo · #**15570** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 9:20 PM**

Nice work indeed!

Much to the chagrin of the Englehorns lol

combusean · #**15571** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 9:42 PM**

Wasn't this really a matter of 6 feet that Engelhorn wanted so this building wouldn't prevent the redevelopment of his? And once he got his 6 feet he stopped caring?

The design as I understood it with the north facing windows on the lot line was insane to begin with. You have to build under the assumption your neighbor will do the same damn thing. Blocking those windows would have been a disaster.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15572** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

Wasn't this really a matter of 6 feet that Engelhorn wanted so this building wouldn't prevent the redevelopment of his? And once he got his 6 feet he stopped caring?

The design as I understood it with the north facing windows on the lot line was insane to begin with. You have to build under the assumption your neighbor will do the same damn thing. Blocking those windows would have been a disaster.

Correct, hence the 6' of abandonment that was granted for the development, so they can essentially move the building plot over 6', lol. I get the window argument, but Stewart was able to include windows and balconies on the Northside and they have a 0' lot line. Go figure

Sunsfan87 · #**15573** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 11:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Have some news on Derby. Did some sleuthing around and found out that back between June and July, lawyers for the Derby development hammered out a 36-month build extension with the City of Phoenix from the original agreement that was set to end this coming March. So basically, they have an additional 36 months now to build. Also, changes were submitted at the ground level to include benches and other infrastructural improvements to the previously approved abandonment area along McKinley (attached screenshot of this below).

Also, the parent name, Amstar McKinley LLC has been changed to Derby RR LLC. Yes, Derby is very much alive

Isn’t the lawsuit for this development still pending litigation? Last I saw a trial was scheduled sometime next year.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15574** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sunsfan87

Isn’t the lawsuit for this development still pending litigation? Last I saw a trial was scheduled sometime next year.

No. It's long over.

Sunsfan87 · #**15575** Posted **Oct 29, 2019, 11:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

No. It's long over.

It definitely looks like there is still litigation going on in some form. I know earlier this year a few counts of the complaint were thrown out, but not all. It looks like a trial is still set for June of next year, unless I’m mistaken.

http://courtminutes.maricopa.gov/JON...inute+Entries#

CrestedSaguaro · #**15576** Posted **Oct 30, 2019, 12:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sunsfan87

It definitely looks like there is still litigation going on in some form. I know earlier this year a few counts of the complaint were thrown out, but not all. It looks like a trial is still set for June of next year, unless I’m mistaken.

http://courtminutes.maricopa.gov/JON...inute+Entries#

This appears to be litigation regarding the issue of GPLETs which is specifically with the City of Phoenix. I do not believe the developers of Derby are any longer involved in the court case. Not even sure if they are even seeking a GPLET any longer.

Sunsfan87 · #**15577** Posted **Oct 30, 2019, 12:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

This appears to be litigation regarding the issue of GPLETs which is specifically with the City of Phoenix. I do not believe the developers of Derby are any longer involved in the court case. Not even sure if they are even seeking a GPLET any longer.

I see your point. I was under the impression that nothing could be built until this case completed litigation but I’m not a lawyer so I won’t try to pretend I know exactly what will happen.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15578** Posted **Oct 30, 2019, 3:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sunsfan87

I see your point. I was under the impression that nothing could be built until this case completed litigation but I’m not a lawyer so I won’t try to pretend I know exactly what will happen.

Eh, me neither. It's hard to follow the minute entries as to what's specifically going on. Either way, my sleuthing only uncovered a 36-month extension to the development agreement and modifications to the ground level abandonment areas. Not a construction permit. So if they are indeed still waiting on the case, they have a 36-month window to build. Maybe they intend to build on the next cycle?

Sunsfan87 · #**15579** Posted **Oct 31, 2019, 1:51 AM**

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/tr...mpression=true

Track club closing.

combusean · #**15580** Posted **Oct 31, 2019, 1:54 AM**

... That was fast.