noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

Interesting post Hoss. I really like the comparison aerials side by side.


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This photograph was taken at LAX.

[ethereal_reality]

I believe this is new to NLA.

'mystery' location.

The information I have is "Wilshire Blvd. 1970s" Westwood?

(it looks like the ocean & a white lighthouse in the distance, but that can't be right )


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I thought someone here on nla might recognize this side-street (where the woman in the sunglasses is crossing)


I'm curious about the two older buildings on the right side of the pic. (one is actually a house)

THESE TWO

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The closer one is rather grand. I feel like I should know it.....but I'm unable to place it.
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[HossC]

The image seems to originate from
Nick Faitos on Flickr. The description says:

A more modest-looking Wilshire, at the corner of Malcolm Ave. The quaint Century Wilshire Hotel, right, held fast against redevelopment until a few years ago, when it was cleared away for The Carlyle, one of the Wilshire Corridor's higher-profile residential towers. (The retired but hardly forgotten Larry King, among others, calls the place home.)

Here's a recent view from Malcolm Avenue.


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Here's a 1972 aerial view (the original picture is 1974).


Historic Aerials

[HossC]

Originally Posted by HossC

I'm not sure what's up with GSV today - I couldn't access historic Streetview or move around as normal (I tried three different browsers).

Originally Posted by tovangar2

I've been having similar problems for a few days...

GSV seems to be back to normal for me. Unless I've missed it before, they've just added an expand button to the little map in Streetview. It expands the map right across the bottom of the screen, you know, like it used to do before Google ruined maps a couple of years ago!


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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by HossC

A more modest-looking Wilshire, at the corner of Malcolm Ave. The quaint Century Wilshire Hotel, right, held fast against redevelopment until a few years ago, when it was cleared away for The Carlyle, one of the Wilshire Corridor's higher-profile residential towers. (The retired but hardly forgotten Larry King, among others, calls the place home.) -Nick Faltos

Thanks Hoss. (so what I thought was a house was actually a long narrow apartment bldg)



The Century Wilshire before it was destroyed.


http://www.panoramio.com/photo/6070386

The powers that be couldn't save at least ONE vintage building along this stretch.

So when exactly was it torn down....did anyone put up a fight?
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for quick comparison / 1974


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[HossC]

The demo permit for the Century Wilshire is dated 2006. Here's pages 1, 3 and 4.







All from Online Building Records

The oldest GSV image is 2007, and shows an empty lot.

[Blaster]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I believe this is new to NLA.

'mystery' location.

The information I have is "Wilshire Blvd. 1970s" Westwood?

(it looks like the ocean & a white lighthouse in the distance, but that can't be right )




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Could that white lighthouse be the steeple of the Fox Westwood Village Theatre?

[Martin Pal]

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I was looking at some vintage Hollywood postcards for sale on AMAZON.

The one that caught my eye was this one:



The information across the top, "Vine Street from Sunset Boulevard, looking North, Hollywood, Callifornia", is incorrect.
I believe it to be taken north of Sunset Blvd. at Selma Ave. and Vine Street and this view is looking southwest.
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Further searching online shows a corrected postcard edition.


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Although it may have, I don't recall this one appearing on NLA previously:

[HossC]

The caption writer of the first postcard must've been thinking of this view .


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[ethereal_reality]

I believe this impressive photograph is new to NLA. (SSP search engine generated 'no results' for Pefullo)



IAMLA https://www.google.com/culturalinsti...NAFH2PQrUiha0Q

"The Peluffo Family Grocery in the North Broadway District of Little Italy,
Ord and New High Street."
[1917]




Here's a closer look at the corner entrance with adults and children milling around.

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I especially like the little girl(?) on the tricycle and the small boy and puppy in the toy car. (he's letting the dog drive )





& here's a closer look at the group posing in front of the two smaller buildings.


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-not sure what they're doing with rope. (maybe they're going to tow the car parked halfway on the sidewalk)








AND TODAY:


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The brick building still stands on the northwest corner of Ord and New High Streets.

The two wooden buildings in the vintage photo might be hidden behind newer facades. (but there's no way to tell for sure)



Here are the smaller buildings in 2007.




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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I believe this impressive photograph is new to NLA. (SSP search engine generated 'no results' for Pefullo)


not sure what they're doing with rope. (maybe they're going to tow the car parked halfway on the sidewalk)

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I believe that's a water hose that's attached to the spigot on a tall post at the left of the man holding it. Maybe the vehicle needed some water for the radiator.

[Rustifer]

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

Bonnie Logan picking her way through traffic at Sunset and Vine...


Bonnie Logan crossing Sunset at Vine Street, ca.1961


Bonnie Logan southbound crossing Sunset Boulevard at Vine Street in about 1961

You gotta love the fins in that photo! I'm speaking of the car, of course....

[Rustifer]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's Bonnie two years earlier in 1959.


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Is that Julius Shulman lying on the sidewalk?

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Hmmmm... the originator of the "Upskirt" photo? Pretty tough to get away with that in public these days.

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I believe this impressive photograph is new to NLA. (SSP search engine generated 'no results' for Pefullo)



IAMLA https://www.google.com/culturalinsti...NAFH2PQrUiha0Q

"The Peluffo Family Grocery in the North Broadway District of Little Italy,
Ord and New High Street."
[1917]

A consultation with The Great Pumpkin revealed a little more information.

For many years, several Peluffo family members (Andrew, Stephen, Anita, Jason and John) had various New High Street listings, e.g., 701, 705, 709, 711 and 716. Curious about the "3" on the corner structure in the photo, and whether it refers to "703" or something else. It "seems" that family listings at the New High Street addresses stopped by the '40s.

Note, the "705" structure, or a part of it, was moved to "714" New High Street, some five years after the photo was taken (1922).










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[Rustifer]

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When the Strip retained some innocence, i.e., before the big build to the sky.



Once upon a time, in July 1953, there was a pool at the corner of Sunset Boulevard and Doheny Rd. It was evidently part of a 1953 live advertisement for the newly opened Sahara Hotel, in Las Vegas. Depending upon your point of view, Red Skelton ("Good night and may God bless.") swam in the pool or laundered his suit and shoes there. When these images were taken, this area was using the so-called newer, more traditional, traffic signals and swan neck style street lights, to which most of us are accustomed. For comparison, see older style at bottom.




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The pool has been replaced with a bank
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Red and supporting cast
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Red Skelton
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Red takes a dip.
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Charles Hornburg's imported car dealership "Jaguar" at 9209 Sunset - is still there.
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WigWag, is your step ladder still in the garage?


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WigWag, don't put away your hammer and dolly. Looks like a perfect customer needs some front end work.
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Red in Merton, 1946
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Interesting sightseeing bus
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Behind-the-scene glimpses

Doheny
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I got to meet Red Skelton late in his life. When I was a partner in an ad agency in Indianapolis, we were doing a series of posters for a printing company titled "Corlorful People of Indiana". Red had come to Vincennes University in Southern Indiana (his hometown and alma mater) to do a show and we had scheduled him for a photo shoot while he was there.

I remember waiting for him backstage of the Student Auditorium. Eventually, a lone, stooped figure came through the back door moving very slowly and looking incredibly old. Once my eyes got adjusted to the back light, I saw that it was Red (he was 80 at the time). He arrived by himself, no entourage or companion to my amazement. I introduced myself and led him out to the stage where the photo crew, makeup artists, and creative directors and university brass were waiting. The second he got on that stage in front of people, he straightened up and suddenly, magically, became the Red Skelton we were all familiar with. All during the photo shoot, he was cracking jokes that literally put us on the floor while saying "Isn't that funny?". It surely was! At the end, he took out a video camera at shot film of all of us. He did this wherever he appeared to send back home to his wife of many years, Lola, as to what he did that day.
He was an incredibly sweet and very talented gentleman, and I was very lucky to have met him.

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

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I believe that's a water hose that's attached to the spigot on a tall post at the left of the man holding it. Maybe the vehicle needed some water for the radiator.

Stephen (Stefano) Genesia Peluffo was born in Vado Ligure, Savona, Liguria, Italy in August of 1869. He came to the U.S. in 1889. He had married Victoria (Fermenta Victorina) Frumento in Italy 1894 when she was 17. They had nine children. Also, working in the store were various other family members, his brothers and brothers-in-law which would account for the large numbers of people in the pictures They were proprietors of the "Sonora Grocery Store" which was located at the northwest corner of New High and Ord. The store was later called "S. Peluffo" and by the 20's "S Peluffo and Sons". By that time they also had the brick building on the corner next door in the photo. They may have bought the store initially as Sonora Grocery.

A 1904 directory gives the street address as 705 New High Street.
The picture in Water and Power, shows the buildings in the 1920's. The caption says that the building ,the brick one on the corner, was originally the "Sonora Town Brothel" (there is some noir for you!)

Stephen died in 1939 and Victoria in1940. They are buried in Calvary Cemetery.

[Rustifer]

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis

For my part, while I'm old enough that I have started to look backwards, I'm just barely old enough to remember the show in its network run; I became more familiar with it in its first syndication run. We lived here by then, and the fact that the show was set in a recognizable landscape really sold the show to me.

I'm still enjoying the landscape of the show, but now nostalgically. I miss the open spaces and the human-scaled built environment this city had then. I'm also enjoying the breezy pre-generation gap vibe, when it was still cool to act like an adult.

For sure the 50's landscape of the show is fascinating to me. As I've explained in past posts, I always freeze frame anytime there's a true LA location shot (which was fairly rare as all the outdoor scenes were generally shot on the Warner Bros. back lot -- the fake buildings were designed more to replicate a NYC street scene rather than LA) to carefully study the landmarks of that period. I even Google any store names that appear readable to see if they're still around.

For good old LA landscapes in films, three that immediately come to mind are Chinatown, LA Confidential and Mulholland Falls. I've recently gotten into the Amazon Prime streaming series "Bosch", set in present day LA with some fascinating noirish on-location scenes. Pretty cool series if you're familiar with it. Titus Welliver, a heretofore venerable character actor, is in the title role as a Beverly Hills homicide detective. Gritty stuff.

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

A consultation with The Great Pumpkin revealed a little more information.

For many years, several Peluffo family members (Andrew, Stephen, Anita, Jason and John) had various New High Street listings, e.g., 701, 705, 709, 711 and 716. Curious about the "3" on the corner structure in the photo, and whether it refers to "703" or something else. It "seems" that family listings at the New High Street addresses stopped by the '40s.

Note, the "705" structure, or a part of it, was moved to "714" New High Street, some five years after the photo was taken (1922). [IMG]http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...z.jpg~original







LIFE

It likely numbered 303 Ord.

[tovangar2]

In all our exploration of Egyptian-revival-style buildings, has this one been discussed? I got interested in it when researching London House and environs:


cc pierce/usc dl (detail)

Morgan, Walls and Morgan's great, tomb-like Archive, extending six under ground, was 56 x 76 feet of concrete, brick and steel. It cost $15K:



southwest contractor and manufacturer Aug 20, 1910
vol 5 No. 15

Built on a two-and-a-half-acre plot of rolling farmland, its only neighbor was Hollywood Cemetery (1902). It was the first structure built
on the future site of what-would-become Raleigh Studios. Baist didn't bother with a 1910 map of this area.
The 1914 map shows very little encroachment, although most parcels had been platted:

baist 1914, plate 35 (detail)

Beginnig in 1915, the movie studios started moving in. Douglas Fairbanks rented the Clune Studio from 1919 to 1922, filming "The Mark of Zorro" (1920)
and "The Three Musketeers" (1921), among other films. When Clune refused to sell Fairbanks the studio, he and Pickford moved on :

baist 1921, plate 35 (detail)

The Archive didn't have any signage until 1927, resulting in noirish rumors about its use. LAT did a little feature that year reassuring everyone
of its benign purpose, enhanced with one of that newspaper's famously murky photos (making it look anything but benign):

LAT 13 Mar 1927

In 1928, the great wooden ice-skating rink (variously known as Glacier Palace, The Winter Garden and Polar Palace) was built
on the NW corner of Van Ness and Clinton, running north to the grounds of the Archive (lasting until consumed by fire in 1963):


The Archive had outlived its usefulness by 1939 and was demolished that same year. In the 11 years that the Archive and the rink coexisted (1928-1939),
they must have made a very strange pair:

LAT 13 Jan 1939

[HossC]

We're back to a single image from Julius Shulman today. It's "Job 660: Douglas Honnold, Rodeo Shops (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1950".



Getty Research Institute

Pierre's Continental Pastry Shop was at 313 N Rodeo Drive, Mary Chess Perfumes at 315, Henry S Gold's Jewelers at 317 and Jewells By Tobias at 319. It probably won't surprise you to learn that the building has been replaced by some glass-fronted stores.


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