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Old Posted Dec 7, 2017, 9:27 PM
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I wouldn't put too much thought in 1301's design or its especially its height. Way too early and the height, design, and usage will all change once the first major tenant is signed. Here's what we know: Pulver owns the land and is actively trying to develop a tall building here. Anything beyond that is pure speculation (which can be fun).

Personally, I like a modern glass tower, especially against City Hall and the other pre-war buildings nearby. But I do hope that one day, Philadelphia gets a tall (700+ ft) traditional style building (preferably Art Deco). For all the wonderful architecture we have here, our skyline is dominated by modern buildings. Cleveland (Terminal Tower), Detroit (Penobscot Building), NYC (ESB, Chrysler, and 40 Wall Street), and even Pittsburgh (Gulf Building) all have skylines that prominently feature really tall Art Deco buildings from the 1920's / 1930's. I want one please

But aside from the Mormons, is there a developer willing to spend the big bucks needed to build a traditional building that doesn't look like a blatant and cheap knock off?
I completely agree with you on these points, completely agree. I do wonder if a modern version of an Art Deco building would work kind of like Liberty One and how it reflects the Chrysler Building; we could have a building like that I guess.

I wonder if there is a height limit for the site?

I wonder if Philadelphia markets to businesses in India or China who need a North American Headquarters; especially if they plan to go global.
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Nice to see you getting at it. I love your work. It offers a perspective that most renderings don't.
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SEFTA , thanks for the great U/C and Proposed sketch-up views of the Market East plans .

The preview of " what might be " is exciting to ponder ..... Now if someone could just sketch
up something comparable for the Disney hole at 8th.& Market , mission impossible becomes
mission accomplished .
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SEFTA , thanks for the great U/C and Proposed sketch-up views of the Market East plans .

The preview of " what might be " is exciting to ponder ..... Now if someone could just sketch
up something comparable for the Disney hole at 8th.& Market , mission impossible becomes
mission accomplished .
Disney Hole? I'll take one of these please: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=230226
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^ I'll second that. Elegant simplicity, even if we get a non-supertall version.
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^ I'll second that. Elegant simplicity, even if we get a non-supertall version.
HAS to happen.
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From SEPTA's photos, definitely like to see more glass towers around City Hall. As his photo shows, lots of masonry buildings around that point and the glass would certainly breaks things up and kinda signals a new era of modern development.

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Disney Hole? I'll take one of these please: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=230226


Yeah , I believe that project is referred to as the Chicago Square and one tower @ 998 ' and
the other @ something like 584 ' ..... I would piss my pants on the corner of 8th. & Market in
front of city counsel for ANYTHING close to 500' ..... So please make something positive happen
soon , I can't hold it in much longer
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Thanks (as always) for all the great vizualizations!
What is the tower (red) on the west side of Broad at Fitzwater?
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That would be 740 S Broad. It's unlikely but I still show it. The reds show that there was an interest in that property.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=218235
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Pardon my lack of inside info on this proposal but , I noticed the renderings on the cover
page have been removed ..... What's up doc ??
Is there a design change , a height change , a tenant change a replacement building of
some sort ..... Please don't tell me it's gone ...
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SEFTA thank you for resuscitating my hopes for the development and
completion of this much needed east Market tower .
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Disney Hole? I'll take one of these please: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=230226

This would be amazing for the Disney Hole; I just looked at a panorama of the city and the balance it would give to the entire city is amazing. This would be great if we could get it; maybe if Microsoft comes here.
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So , does anyone think this project will see a ground breaking ceremony anytime this year .... or next year .
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So , does anyone think this project will see a ground breaking ceremony anytime this year .... or next year .
The developer is taking the time to find anchor tenants who are willing to pay market rates.

Occupancy projected by early 2020.
Construction should begin sometime this year.
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So , does anyone think this project will see a ground breaking ceremony anytime this year .... or next year .
Not unless they find an anchor tenant this year or next.

Cira South was proposed in 2007. It didn't break ground until -- I wanna say 2014? -- and didn't get finished until last year. So that was a decade-long development cycle. And that had the power of Brandywine as lead developer and Penn as anchor tenant behind it from the outset.
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Cira South was proposed in 2007. It didn't break ground until -- I wanna say 2014? -- and didn't get finished until last year. So that was a decade-long development cycle. And that had the power of Brandywine as lead developer and Penn as anchor tenant behind it from the outset.
As a respected member & moderator of the most important forum of the skyscraper community, I’d like to know if anyone can make a difference, it’s you, hammersklavier.

A few phone calls and meetings should help move this important development.
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As a respected member & moderator of the most important forum of the skyscraper community, I’d like to know if anyone can make a difference, it’s you, hammersklavier.

A few phone calls and meetings should help move this important development.
lol that's not how it works, bud.
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