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Old Posted Jul 18, 2022, 6:26 PM
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Are other metros this fragmented with agencies? Your image never showed up, but I can see it in the quote. There's not really any good maps showing all the Bay Area's transit lines.
Don't think so. At least with LA's system their light rail and heavy rail are integrated into one system, the Metro Rail. Then they've got Metrolink which is their commuter rail.

It wouldn't really make sense to rename Muni Metro as BART, or BART as Muni Metro though, since Muni is local transit only, whereas BART is more regional. It's probably make more sense to merge Caltrain with BART into a single integrated system.



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Old Posted Jul 18, 2022, 6:34 PM
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Milpitas is the place to be; take both BART and VTA. Caltrain needs to step up their game and extend their route there.
Highly unlikely. Diridon is going to be where it's at.

It'll have:
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2022, 9:58 PM
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LA has a pretty decent subway system. They get shit for it but most cities would kill to have half that.
It's the last 'true' HRT system in the U.S. to be built from scratch, which is kind of cool — knowing that we "got in just in time" before the LRT craze. What's a shame is that there aren't any elevated, at-grade, or sub-surface embankment portions, which would've established critical precedents to circumnavigate political challenges. And if plans for extensions south and east would've materialized in the 20th century, yielding a medium-sized system of 35-50 miles, the case for HRT would have more traction because it's generally easier, financially and politically, to make use of existing tracks (interlining) to bring service to new areas rather than constructing new lines from scratch.

Today, we have a countywide 2% sales tax dedicated to transportation with no expiration date, but only a third of that revenue is allocated for transit capital. Further, it mandates that certain projects (as written in Measure R/M) be built before much more worthwhile projects can be funded. That's why it takes 15 years to fund, design, and construct a freaking "BRT" line.
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