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Old Posted Apr 11, 2021, 9:45 PM
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What is going on specifically in Michigan?
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2021, 9:50 PM
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What is going on specifically in Michigan?
The state line of MI with OH/Indy is noticeable. That is puzzling, the shading should blend along borders.
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2021, 9:58 PM
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I just heard today that the wife of a friend of mine tested positive. She works at a pharmacy clinic, has been fully vaccinated was one of the first in line; tested positive for Covid this week. She had some symptoms, which is an automatic test per company policy, tested positive and recovered in 2-3 days.
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2021, 10:02 PM
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The Texas panhandle, lower Michigan, Minnesota and the NY/NJ/eastern PA area continue to light up like neon signs:


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-us-cases.html

And this is in spite of NJ especially doing very well in getting its population vaccinated with 40% now having had at least 1 shot. I admit I find that disturbing. I would expect to see at least some tamping down effect by now.
Over the last 7 days my former state of Arkansas saw the least amount of new cases per 100k!

Arkansas 5
Illinois 26
Michigan 74
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2021, 10:02 PM
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The state line of MI with OH/Indy is noticeable. That is puzzling, the shading should blend along borders.
I noticed that too. Very strange.
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2021, 10:17 PM
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I noticed that too. Very strange.
Could be a testing difference...
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2021, 10:26 PM
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Could be a testing difference...
Is there a ICU intake rate of the same magnitude along those county lines as well? If that were true, then that would be quite a study to undertake as to why that happened.
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You guys really need to chill out. You actually think about your risk of exposure if you see someone without a mask on? Really? Do you worry about your risk to your life every time you drive?
38,000 deaths a year (on average) from car accidents in the US.

Over 500,000 deaths from Covid after one year of COVID.

Funny enough, yes I do worry about getting into an accident every time I drive. I’m a pretty paranoid person.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 AM
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The years when you are physically and mentally capable of any activity. In contrast to old age, when at least physical decline limits what you can do.

Aren’t you in your mid thirties by now? I hate to break it to you bud, but your next ten years are going to be...

Disappointing.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 12:37 AM
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I think it is more about the workers who are exposed every single day on their 8 hour shift. I think smoking bans are going too far now but I wouldn't eat in a restaurant or go to a bar that allows smoking. Not because I am afraid of cancer but the cigarette smoke really makes for a shitty experience and is annoying as hell.
Not to mention that there are number of other diseases besides cancer that are caused or exacerbated by second-hand smoke: https://www.lung.org/research/sotc/b...condhand-smoke
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 12:59 AM
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You guys really need to chill out. You actually think about your risk of exposure if you see someone without a mask on? Really? Do you worry about your risk to your life every time you drive? You have a much more statistical probability of getting killed or maimed in a car accident than dying from covid if you under 80. You could walk down the street and a tree branch could break and kill you. Do you worry about slipping in the bathtub and breaking your neck every time you take a shower? You could die at any second without warning from a stroke or a blood clot to the lungs. Eating too many tasty burgers and fries could lead to obesity and heart failure or diabetes. You could get trapped in your room at night during a house fire, do you worry about all of these things constantly?
this is insane. even if YOU might not die from contracting COVID, the more that it spreads the more likely it is that you'll pass it along to somebody who WILL die from it. and even if you don't die, a substantial number of young people who contracted it have had long term health problems, including respiratory and pulmonary problems and mental illness and cognitive dysfunction due to COVID-induced brain swelling.

it's really sad how fucking stupid and selfish about half of Americans are.
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Aren’t you in your mid thirties by now? I hate to break it to you bud, but your next ten years are going to be...

Disappointing.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I am in incredible shape. But yes, I do think that my next 5-10 years are the ones that I am living for and beyond that my quality of life will decline precipitously.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 2:12 AM
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The state line of MI with OH/Indy is noticeable. That is puzzling, the shading should blend along borders.
You have to look at population. The colors are based on cases/100,000. In a very lightly populated county, one or two cases can literally cause them to stand out whereas the county next door may not have any cases or just 1 vs 2 and if it's also lightly populated will have a very different rate/100,000.

For this reason, I don't take this map very seriously in rural regions . . . only in urban areas and cities. So, for example, I think it matters that San Francisco has 4/100,000 whereas Detroit (Wayne County) has 83/100,000.

If you go to the actual link and hover over the county, it shows you the actual number of cases (from which you can calculate population if you want to). But consider that San Francisco and Jefferson County, Arkansas have a similar rate of cases per 100,000 but that means 2.7 average daily cases in Jefferson County but 38 in San Francisco. If Jefferson had one less or one more cases per day, their rate/100,000 would be drastically different. That can certainly happen.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 2:17 AM
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but I am in incredible shape. But yes, I do think that my next 5-10 years are the ones that I am living for and beyond that my quality of life will decline precipitously.
Oh, Lord. If I had a nickel for every person I've seen who unexpectedly had an acute cardiovascular episode or came down with some other serious disease out of the blue when "in incredible shape" I'd be really rich. And similarly, plenty of people find their 50s and 60s the most enjoyable times of their lives. Sometimes even later decades.

You are the least empathetic person I have ever heard speak, I believe. Sh*t happens, man, and predicting the future is for fools. Enjoy life now but don't count on it lasting or meaning anything about how your health will be 10 or 20 years from now. All you can do is try to be healthy and it may work or it may not.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 3:05 AM
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but I am in incredible shape. But yes, I do think that my next 5-10 years are the ones that I am living for and beyond that my quality of life will decline precipitously.
If you're in your mid 30's, that means I have at least 10 years on you and my quality of life is certainly no worse than it was in my 20's or 30's...except I go to bed at a more reasonable hour. No reason if you're healthy now, take care of yourself and have the genetics that you shouldn't have another 25-30 years of good quality of life.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 6:39 AM
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If you're in your mid 30's, that means I have at least 10 years on you and my quality of life is certainly no worse than it was in my 20's or 30's...except I go to bed at a more reasonable hour. No reason if you're healthy now, take care of yourself and have the genetics that you shouldn't have another 25-30 years of good quality of life.
I think my 50s and 60s were my best 2 decades by far. I didn't have to work, was healthy and financially comfortable. It was good times.

My work was interesting and challenging but frankly I love getting up in the morning knowing I can do anything I want all day long (including staying in bed as late as I want). And having the time to travel anywhere, anytime although I pretty much got traveling out of my system during my working years.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 7:07 AM
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More evidence that it's a tragedy the monoclonal antibody "cocktails" aren't being used more. With these drugs and the vaccine, it should be rare to end up like those early patients in an ICU on a ventilator. It should be uncommon to even need hospitalization.

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Covid-19 Drug Prevents Symptomatic Disease in Study, Regeneron Says
By Joseph Walker
Updated April 12, 2021 1:32 am ET

An antibody drug from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. reduced the risk of developing symptomatic Covid-19 infection by 81% compared with a placebo in people living with someone infected by the new coronavirus, a study found.

The results point to potential new preventive applications for the drug, which is already in use to treat earlier Covid-19 cases.

Regeneron said Monday it would ask the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to expand the drug’s authorization among people exposed to the virus who haven’t yet been vaccinated, which could provide temporary stopgap protection as people await vaccines . . . .

“With more than 60,000 Americans continuing to be diagnosed with Covid-19 every day, the REGEN-COV antibody cocktail may help provide immediate protection to unvaccinated people who are exposed to the virus,” said George D. Yancopoulos, Regeneron’s president and chief scientific officer.

Regeneron issued the Phase 3 data in a press release, and the findings haven’t yet been published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

The study was jointly conducted by Regeneron and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and includes fuller results than interim findings the company released in January.

REGEN-COV is currently authorized to treat people infected with Covid-19 who have mild to moderate symptoms and are at high risk of developing severe disease because of factors including age or underlying conditions such as obesity.

In studies, the drug reduced the risk of hospitalization or death by about 70% . . . .
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...d=hp_lead_pos2
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 7:16 AM
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Bay Area teens' video shows how to snag a COVID vaccine appointment on My Turn
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Updated: April 11, 2021 3:49 p.m.

Two Foster City high school students first created a Twitter bot to help find COVID-19 vaccine appointments for their parents.

Then their parents’ friends began asking for help. Soon, Sam Mendelson and Daniel Stoiber started receiving an avalanche of inquiries, and the two decided to publicly launch the free bot this month to help more people.

“It quickly expanded beyond an invite-only system, where we just wanted to push this out to more people so more people were able to get vaccines,” said Stoiber, 17.

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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 10:03 AM
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You have to look at population. The colors are based on cases/100,000. In a very lightly populated county, one or two cases can literally cause them to stand out whereas the county next door may not have any cases or just 1 vs 2 and if it's also lightly populated will have a very different rate/100,000.

For this reason, I don't take this map very seriously in rural regions . . . only in urban areas and cities. So, for example, I think it matters that San Francisco has 4/100,000 whereas Detroit (Wayne County) has 83/100,000.

If you go to the actual link and hover over the county, it shows you the actual number of cases (from which you can calculate population if you want to). But consider that San Francisco and Jefferson County, Arkansas have a similar rate of cases per 100,000 but that means 2.7 average daily cases in Jefferson County but 38 in San Francisco. If Jefferson had one less or one more cases per day, their rate/100,000 would be drastically different. That can certainly happen.
The difference in cases/100k between SF & Detroit highlights the importance of masks and social distancing even more than the vaccine. Presumably many Detroiters like San Franciscans have been vaccinated, but such a stark difference means masking in public is just as important.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 10:24 AM
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What’s your point about masks? You think people in Detroit aren’t wearing masks? I assure you they are, I was just there a couple of weeks ago. If anything it shows that masks are largely pointless. Otherwise in the whole country, cities would have less cases per 100k as everyone in cities are made to wear masks, while in small towns outside of cities, lot of people don’t wear masks when inside businesses.
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