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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 3:46 PM
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I haven't really been a fan of Sterling Bay's design choices so far, and the site layout just looks odd. Sure it's "better" than the urban blight there currently, but if we're talking about bridging the vibrant neighborhoods of Bucktown and LP, I would've hoped they didn't make it so "towers in the park." A big win would be if they vary the architecture more, but doubt it.

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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 4:17 PM
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I agree. It's nice to get some density in this area but I don't see this becoming a popular hub for anyone that doesn't work or live there. It's a mixed-use Lakeshore East.
The concert venue should bring people in at night, and the sports fields should bring in families and beer leagues. If Sterling Bay opens any restaurants themselves via Four Corners Group, those tend to target a younger partying crowd.

Don't get the Lakeshore East comparison, which is exclusively a bedroom community and deliberately has no entertainment uses.

I'm still disappointed in the poor transit access for Lincoln Yards, but the road access should be pretty good after full build-out and the 606 is like an expressway funneling joggers and cyclists into LY.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 5:09 PM
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I'm still disappointed in the poor transit access for Lincoln Yards, but the road access should be pretty good after full build-out and the 606 is like an expressway funneling joggers and cyclists into LY.
Is the Kingsbury rail r.o.w. still in play? If I recall correctly running a surface line to Northwetern and Union stations on an existing belt line was supposed to provide transit access to the Yards.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 7:53 PM
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The concert venue should bring people in at night, and the sports fields should bring in families and beer leagues. If Sterling Bay opens any restaurants themselves via Four Corners Group, those tend to target a younger partying crowd.
sounds about as exciting as Rosemont
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 9:49 PM
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^ Like I said a few posts ago, it won't be everyone's cup of tea but that doesn't mean it won't be lively or successful. Plenty of people like going to Rosemont, I don't feel the need to sneer at them. I think a better comparison for LY is Gallagher Way at Wrigley - still very normie white Big Ten culture but at least the urban design is decent.

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Is the Kingsbury rail r.o.w. still in play? If I recall correctly running a surface line to Northwetern and Union stations on an existing belt line was supposed to provide transit access to the Yards.
Haven't heard anything about the North Branch Transitway (per se) in a few years so I'm guessing it'll end up on the shelf like so many other transit plans. It's pretty clear that this, like many other things, was a Rahm priority that Lightfoot doesn't care about.

However, the city did reach an agreement in 2020 with Chicago Terminal Railroad for an "interim trail use" and approved by the Feds. Technically it applies to the whole corridor, but more likely we will only see a trail on the east-west bit parallel to Cortland which will become the 606 extension. Sterling Bay has agreed to build and maintain this part of the trail on behalf of the city so there is very much money behind it.

The longer north-south bit through General Iron site and Goose Island is in limbo. Parts of the line run through private property and those owners would very much like the freedom to develop their land without a rail track through the middle. The law allows the ROW to be restored for rail service or trails, but a busway is neither of those things and might not legally be allowed without consent from the landowners.

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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 10:51 PM
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This is a gaming changing development ...for Atlanta.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 10:54 PM
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This is a gaming changing development ...for Atlanta.
Lol I'm from Atlanta and you're 100% right, Atlanta's downtown is barren and would kill to have something like this. All the development is focused on Midtown and the Beltline/PCM area.

But back to Chicago. The whole northern channel of the river has very bad suburban development. Why I said this will be a gamechanger is because with this development it will open the floodgates to help develop the rest of that whole Elston/Clybourn North Center corridor. Just wait and see.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 9:21 PM
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Lol I'm from Atlanta and you're 100% right, Atlanta's downtown is barren and would kill to have something like this. All the development is focused on Midtown and the Beltline/PCM area.

But back to Chicago. The whole northern channel of the river has very bad suburban development. Why I said this will be a gamechanger is because with this development it will open the floodgates to help develop the rest of that whole Elston/Clybourn North Center corridor. Just wait and see.
We'll see. The Kennedy prevents the foot traffic from reaching a critical mass at Ashland/Elston/Armitage. It's highly congested, there's just next to no street life. Bridging that enclave w/ the more lively east bank of the river (not that it's super bustling over there) is going to take a bit of time. Would be nice to see both sides developing simultaneously so there's less of a drop off in the scene as you make your way west towards the Kennedy.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 10:08 PM
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This is a gaming changing development ...for Atlanta.
Well……… If this was built-out mixed use in the same design principles of development along the Beltline, that would be quite amazing.
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Lol they included the Office Depot in the renderings
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2022, 5:01 PM
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very nice. good to see this kind of design actually going forward
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2022, 2:54 PM
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/columni...t-sterling-bay

something of a puff piece but outlines the economic opportunity this type of development is aiming to support

it's an interesting thought exercise to think about which development is going to have a more meaningful impact on the future of chicago's economic vitality: lincoln yards vs. the casino project
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something of a puff piece but outlines the economic opportunity this type of development is aiming to support

it's an interesting thought exercise to think about which development is going to have a more meaningful impact on the future of chicago's economic vitality: lincoln yards vs. the casino project
Why not both? I think each will have major, meaningful impacts for the City's future economic growth, even if they are from two wildly different avenues.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Why not both? I think each will have major, meaningful impacts for the City's future economic growth, even if they are from two wildly different avenues.
I dont know? In my thought exercise you have to pick one?
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I don’t know why anyone thinks a casino is a good thing. Leave that shit in Vegas, which is a sewer anyway.
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2022, 8:51 PM
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Chicago YIMBY has a good update on the bio building....

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/04/all...oln-yards.html

I love the photos of the building with all of the vacant space around it. Hopefully we look back at these in 10 years with awe of how vacant it looks.
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