Other Manitoba and Saskatchewan Developments

[Biff]

That is if we didn't have the US as a neighbour. There is zero chance the US would allow Russia to invade and occupy Canada. To be honest, I believe saving "Canada" would be irrelevant to the US. They would just want to prevent Russia from being right next door.

[3de14eec6a]

You guys are silly. We're part of NATO. Article 5 would cause all NATO allies to help us. Russia would get wrecked.

[djforsberg]

As I said, being part of NATO means that all NATO members must help defend each other. Again, we will be fine.

Originally Posted by 3de14eec6a

You guys are silly. We're part of NATO. Article 5 would cause all NATO allies to help us. Russia would get wrecked.

Jinx!

Either way, not even Putin is stupid enough to attack a NATO country. At that point it would be a scorched earth campaign followed by their destruction.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by 3de14eec6a

You guys are silly. We're part of NATO. Article 5 would cause all NATO allies to help us. Russia would get wrecked.

I was kidding with my earlier post about Russia invading, but of course this would be the logical outcome. Russia can meddle in non-NATO countries as much as it wants, but it knows the gloves are off once they cross that line... which is why it won't do that.

[Gm0ney]

Canada would be a terrible country for Russia to invade. They're having trouble invading their next door neighbour with highways and rail lines leading right from their bases to the objective. They can't maintain long supply lines or establish air superiority...50km-100km into Ukraine. Imagine them trying to come in over the Arctic? It's 4000km from the Russian Arctic coast to Alberta. Good luck with that, comrade. It would be a 21st Century Franklin Expedition.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by Gm0ney

Canada would be a terrible country for Russia to invade. They're having trouble invading their next door neighbour with highways and rail lines leading right from their bases to the objective. They can't maintain long supply lines or establish air superiority...50km-100km into Ukraine. Imagine them trying to come in over the Arctic? It's 4000km from the Russian Arctic coast to Alberta. Good luck with that, comrade. It would be a 21st Century Franklin Expedition.

Plus the ice caps are melting. I really hope everyone remembers this as the government attempts to increase the defence budget. It is not needed and would only solidify the chance of a future conflict. Plus, we have enough problems of our own to deal with.

[DavefromSt.Vital]

After much "confusion and delay", the 34th Street grade-level crossing of the CP mainline in Brandon is finally open.

Time will tell if fire trucks can actually navigate the grade.

[thurmas]

RM of Macdonald reports new splash pads for kids will be built in La Salle and Oakbluff next year.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by Gm0ney

Canada would be a terrible country for Russia to invade. They're having trouble invading their next door neighbour with highways and rail lines leading right from their bases to the objective. They can't maintain long supply lines or establish air superiority...50km-100km into Ukraine. Imagine them trying to come in over the Arctic? It's 4000km from the Russian Arctic coast to Alberta. Good luck with that, comrade. It would be a 21st Century Franklin Expedition.

They do not need to invade Canada. They just need to claim some of our territorial waters, EEZ or uninhabited islands in the Arctic. If someone like Trump is President and he doesn't care about Canada or thinks he does not need to defend Canada because we don't pay our fair share of defense costs, what are we going to do about it if don't have any independent military capabilities?

NATO members only need to "render assistance" as they deem necessary. If all Russia is doing is claiming some seabed or tundra based on some weak legal theory, NATO members can offer limited assistance so they don't "provoke Putin". Anything is possible these days as we have seen recently.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by Stormer

They do not need to invade Canada. They just need to claim some of our territorial waters, EEZ or uninhabited islands in the Arctic. If someone like Trump is President and he doesn't care about Canada or thinks he does not need to defend Canada because we don't pay our fair share of defense costs, what are we going to do about it if don't have any independent military capabilities?

NATO members only need to "render assistance" as they deem necessary. If all Russia is doing is claiming some seabed or tundra based on some weak legal theory, NATO members can offer limited assistance so they don't "provoke Putin". Anything is possible these days as we have seen recently.

I think the only way Putin or his successor does something like that is if China has already made a move to reclaim Taiwan, triggering WW3 anyways.

[Spocket]

The US doesn't want Russia to have a single square meter of Canadian territory and you actually can count on full support from them in defending Canadian territory.

How can we be so sure? Because having a hostile force inside the continental perimeter is like a fifth column. The US is hardly going to allow the Russians to set up a forward operating base in North America so that they can take all the time they need to amass whatever forces the Russians feel is necessary to take the rest of Canada. And the US won't even let us cede territory to Russia for the same reason. The US would evade and occupy Canada before they let the Russians establish nuclear bases on the continent.

And people seem to have quickly forgotten that Ukraine was never part of NATO and you can't draw any conclusions about the organization would react if truly threatened.

[Gm0ney]

Originally Posted by Stormer

They do not need to invade Canada. They just need to claim some of our territorial waters, EEZ or uninhabited islands in the Arctic. If someone like Trump is President and he doesn't care about Canada or thinks he does not need to defend Canada because we don't pay our fair share of defense costs, what are we going to do about it if don't have any independent military capabilities?

NATO members only need to "render assistance" as they deem necessary. If all Russia is doing is claiming some seabed or tundra based on some weak legal theory, NATO members can offer limited assistance so they don't "provoke Putin". Anything is possible these days as we have seen recently.

The whole notion is ridiculous. The Russians are struggling to establish a competent supply chain into their next door neighbour by land. They wouldn't be able to capture and hold any territory thousands of kilometers away by sea from their closest port. You could just blockade them until they run out of fuel or food and surrender.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Plus the ice caps are melting. I really hope everyone remembers this as the government attempts to increase the defence budget. It is not needed and would only solidify the chance of a future conflict. Plus, we have enough problems of our own to deal with.

Being part of NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP on defence. Canada would be at 1.59% with the latest increased Liberal spending over the next 5 years. So it kind of is needed to pull their weight in the alliance.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by cheswick

Being part of NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP on defence. Canada would be at 1.59% with the latest increased Liberal spending over the next 5 years. So it kind of is needed to pull their weight in the alliance.

How many NATO countries follow that? What does that number even mean and where did it come from? Doesn't sound very scientific to me.

[Dalreg]

MODS can we steer this back to a somewhat relevant discussion please?

[zalf]

So getting off of the subject of, uh, Canadian Foreign Policies & Affairs and back to Other Manitoba and Saskatchewan Developments, the outdoor shopping space for local makers over in Pineridge Hollow is looking nearly complete. Photos are a couple weeks old.

[esquire]

^ That looks pretty nifty... first I've heard of it.

[thurmas]

Ventura having aug 30th open house on riverview Park development here in la salle at the fellowship church

[kattiff]

apparently Swan River MB is getting a McDonald’s

[esquire]

Originally Posted by kattiff

apparently Swan River MB is getting a McDonald’s

I wonder how many towns and cities in Manitoba are part of that elite club?

Winnipeg
Selkirk
Steinbach
Winkler
Morden
Altona
Portage la Prairie
Brandon
Neepawa
Dauphin
The Pas
Thompson
Flin Flon
and now Swan River?

Am I missing any?