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[sopas ej]

Thanks for the replies, guys!

I was curious to know the full word for the "FI" exchange, and apparently it was "Fitzroy."

Link: Old Telephone Exchange Names Los Angeles County

[Hollywood Graham]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

Thanks for the replies, guys!

I was curious to know the full word for the "FI" exchange, and apparently it was "Fitzroy."

Link: Old Telephone Exchange Names Los Angeles County

Names on telephone numbers were puzzling for sure, I had a girlfriend that moved to the Valley, she had two numbers beginning with STate and STanley. Why, well one was for a toll call for dialing from L.A. the other was not a toll call. The list says for downtown LA showed MA was MAin but it also was MAdison, I called regular to that number as it was a line that circumvented the switchboard at City Hall (Michigan-5211, later Michigan 4-5211).

[Handsome Stranger]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I didn't know Pioneer Pigeon Chicken had a mascot. (who, for some reason, looks very Italian)


Doug Davis Photo, "Pioneer Takeout" Los Angeles, 1969


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He identified himself as Pioneer Pete in TV commercials. I *think* it was some kind of foam rubber Sid & Marty Krofft type costume.

[ethereal_reality]

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Thanks for digging up the old photograph of the three Pioneer businesses all in a row, Hoss. I had forgotten all about Pioneer Pizza. That explains the Italian Chef mascot!


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I could use some help in figuring out the locations of the following 4 aerial images that were recently listed on eBay

The seller only mentions the Stillwell Hotel (it's in #3) . There's a key (without much information) at the bottom of the post.




Hmm. I think I am going to go LARGER.

Let's start over.


#1

eBay

umm. .too large?

I'm going to switch back to 1280 x 1054.





#2

eBay










#3

eBay






#4

eBay

If anyone wants to see the last two images extra-LARGE let me know.


Here's that before mentioned key.


eBay



Good Luck! .............(no whip. I'm feeling nice)


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[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

Thanks for the replies, guys!

I was curious to know the full word for the "FI" exchange, and apparently it was "Fitzroy."

Link: Old Telephone Exchange Names Los Angeles County

When I was a kid in NoHo I recall our phone number started with PO, which was called "POplar" like the tree. When you gave your phone number, you would say "Poplar 12345", or just PO 12345, and people knew it was just PO representing the first two numbers. Poplar, or those numbers with P O (=76 on the phone dialer), meant North Hollywood, or part if it. It was OK, because you just had to remember 5 numbers instead of 7 when someone gave you their number. The PO you would remember.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Thanks for digging up the old photograph of the three Pioneer businesses all in a row, Hoss. I had forgotten all about Pioneer Pizza. That explains the Italian Chef mascot!


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OJ looks like he has seen a ghost, maybe from 10 years in the future


I could use some help in figuring out the locations of the following 4 aerial images that were recently listed on eBay

Let's start over.

#2

eBay


If anyone wants to see the last two images extra-LARGE let me know



Good Luck! .............(no whip. I'm feeling nice)


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Slide 2 is backwards. It shows Century City (C. Plaza on left) and Westwood skyline and SM Mountains from maybe the 1980s before some of the newer buildings. Looks reversed or mirror imaged. Maybe I had too much wine. It just doesn't look right. Flip it around. Ocean is on the wrong side. I can see the Barrington Plaza on the right in the distance, and it should be on the left like the ocean from this viewpoint looking north towards the mountains from Cent. City.

[HossC]

The image is mirrored! Thanks, CaliNative, that's why I was having trouble recognizing the location. Here's an approximation of the same view today:


Google Maps

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

#4

eBay

This is the easy one: looking southwest on Main Street from 2nd Street. St Vibiana's is in the foreground.

[Lwize]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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OJ and I agree - Pioneer was good fried chicken!

[ethereal_reality]

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Thanks for all your help guys.


Here is #2 flipped and corrected.


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Ta Dah!




. . .and Hoss' image again for easy comparison.

Originally Posted by HossC

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I spy Bruce Willis.







doogiehorner

[Martin Pal]

^^^

Yes, when I first saw that slide image I thought, that's the Century Plaza, but it can't be 1981 (stated on the key below) if the Century City Mall isn't there yet. Then I realized it was reversed!

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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eBay
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Something to look forward to:
The key says "I have a bunch so check back often."

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

#3

eBay

The Stillwell Hotel pinpointed this one. We're looking roughly east from near Olympic and Grand. Here's my "now" approximation:


Google Maps

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Hmmm. Hoss finding the Olympic and Grand location (above posting) makes me reconsider a thought I discarded before.

There was a Parnelli Jones Firestone at 1013 W. Olympic:


LA City Environmental Site Planning Document dated 6/2/2015

Looking at the site today helps not one iota:


gsv

So maybe the Parnelli Jones Firestone at the center of the to-be-identified pic is at 1013 W. Olympic?

[Snix]

I treasure the mini Pioneer Pete in my collection, who once graced the counter of some long-gone Pioneer Take-Out outlet.
The most famous of those dynamic (rip-off McDonald's) Pioneers was the triple-arched store at 7290 Sunset Blvd. (1966, George Jelks)

Photo by Ed Ruscha and featured in his seminal Every Building on the Sunset Strip. Courtesy of The Getty Research Institute’s 12 Sunsets project via Los Angeles Explorers Guild
https://losangelesexplorersguild.com...chicken-stand/


1974 photo by Richard Longstreth, seen in the book Road Trip (Universe Publishing, 2015) via Flickr/Heather David
https://www.flickr.com/photos/14696209@N02/24299463473

Here is an earlier version at 1716 N. Western (1964, Joyce Miller)

https://psyne.co/pioneer-chicken/

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Thanks for figuring out the recent mystery locations, HenryHuntington...I appreciate it.
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I didn't know Pioneer Pigeon Chicken had a mascot. (who, for some reason, looks very Italian)


Doug Davis Photo, "Pioneer Takeout" Los Angeles, 1969


eBay


If I were the advertising agency I might have gone with a. . . .PIONEER! ..

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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Originally Posted by odinthor

Hmmm. Hoss finding the Olympic and Grand location (above posting) makes me reconsider a thought I discarded before.

There was a Parnelli Jones Firestone at 1013 W. Olympic:


LA City Environmental Site Planning Document dated 6/2/2015

Looking at the site today helps not one iota:


gsv

So maybe the Parnelli Jones Firestone at the center of the to-be-identified pic is at 1013 W. Olympic?

You have it odinthor, although as you say, there's nothing left there to confirm it. Here's part of a 1974 Dick Whittington photo. The diagonal street is Olympic. I think that the open area in the top-right of the original image was a parking lot for the conference center. I don't think any of the buildings in e_r's image still exist. They've been cleared for the construction of the Staples Center, LA Live and associated hotels.


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[ethereal_reality]

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Good sleuthing odinthor. ... I don't believe I could have figured it out.

Originally Posted by HossC

I don't think any of the buildings in e_r's image still exist.

That's downright depressing.

Thanks for your help, Hoss.

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[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by odinthor

There was a Parnelli Jones Firestone at 1013 W. Olympic:


LA City Environmental Site Planning Document dated 6/2/2015

Looking at the site today helps not one iota:

Originally Posted by HossC

You have it odinthor, although as you say, there's nothing left there to confirm it. Here's part of a 1974 Dick Whittington photo. The diagonal street is Olympic. I think that the open area in the top-right of the original image was a parking lot for the conference center. I don't think any of the buildings in e_r's image still exist. They've been cleared for the construction of the Staples Center, LA Live and associated hotels.

There is, or recently was, this remnant of the Parnelli Jones Firestone that operated at 1013 W. Olympic.

The framework of the old Firestone sign was still there last May.

JustTires were making use of it in 2009 and HealthCare Partners in later years but it's been an empty shell for three years.



GSV

[Mackerm]

1101 W. Olympic has been altered, but the slope of the roof looks the same. Another candidate for the NLA clubhouse, perhaps.

[sadykadie2]

Originally Posted by Snix

I treasure the mini Pioneer Pete in my collection, who once graced the counter of some long-gone Pioneer Take-Out outlet.
The most famous of those dynamic (rip-off McDonald's) Pioneers was the triple-arched store at 7290 Sunset Blvd. (1966, George Jelks)

Photo by Ed Ruscha and featured in his seminal Every Building on the Sunset Strip. Courtesy of The Getty Research Institute’s 12 Sunsets project via Los Angeles Explorers Guild
https://losangelesexplorersguild.com...chicken-stand/


1974 photo by Richard Longstreth, seen in the book Road Trip (Universe Publishing, 2015) via Flickr/Heather David
https://www.flickr.com/photos/14696209@N02/24299463473

Here is an earlier version at 1716 N. Western (1964, Joyce Miller)

https://psyne.co/pioneer-chicken/

The picture titled " 1716 N. Western (1964, Joyce Miller)" I believe is from the early 70's. The cars appear to be more from that era

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by HossC

The image is mirrored! Thanks, CaliNative, that's why I was having trouble recognizing the location. Here's an approximation of the same view today:


Google Maps

Cheers Hoss. Maybe ER was trying to make it more of a challenge by reversing the image. But the Century Plaza and Westwood skyline are unmistakable to a UCLA alum, even if reversed.

Been a very rough week, lost my mother last Saturday. She was almost 102. She was born on Christmas Day, 1920. Wilson was still President. She remembered the 1920s. Very few left who do. Why I love the 1920s. She had lots of memories, even though she was a kid. I love you mom and will miss you terribly, but I will remember you and your stories of the "Roaring 20s" and the "Dirty 30s", and may share them soon so your memories are not forgotten.