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I'm confused about why people keep mentioning the Great Pyramids. How did they contribute to architectural innovation?

I thought this is a discussion of structures which most contributed to the advancement of architecture + design, not whether the structures were iconic (in which case, yeah, the Pyramids or Eifel Tower are probably best options).
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^ because they are timeless.

Probably the most permanent physical structures our species has ever built (other than the spacecraft we've sent out into the cosmos).

The thread title mentioned nothing about innovation or advancement, just "importance", and there are many different ways to interpret that.

any grand-scale human-built structure that stands for 4,500 years automatically rises to the top of "importance".

call me when the pantheon or chartres cathedral or whatever make it another several millennia.
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^ i'd say it's more because they're monumental feats of engineering (unfortunately powered by slave labor).
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^ i'd say it's more because they're monumental feats of engineering (unfortunately powered by slave labor).
A myth, perpetuated by Hollywood, some scholars have been saying for the past 10 years, I believe...

Just Google "were the pyramids built by slaves" and see what you come up with.
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The Empire State Building belongs in this discussion somewhere.

It is definitely the most significant building in the US/Canada.
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The Empire State Building belongs in this discussion somewhere.

Definitely the most significant building in the US.
For a skyscraper, yes. For a building period, I think it's either the White House or US Capitol.
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A myth, perpetuated by Hollywood, some scholars have been saying for the past 10 years, I believe...

Just Google "were the pyramids built by slaves" and see what you come up with.
you forgot to credit the source that you nearly quoted verbatim:

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One popular myth that Egyptologists say was perpetrated in part by Hollywood movies held that ancient Israelite slaves — ancestors of the Jewish people — built the pyramids.
https://www.usnews.com/science/artic...build-pyramids

i stand corrected. that's good news, i guess. there was plenty of slavery in ancient Egypt, though. they just didn't build the pyramids, it seems.
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The Empire State Building belongs in this discussion somewhere.

It is definitely the most significant building in the US/Canada.
In my opinion the greatest building ever made. Been my inspiration since I was in grade 4!
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the ESB is iconic and all but I would argue that architecturally wise, it was nothing revolutionary. They just took the techniques and materials available at the time and stretched out the height. If they were able to succeed in making the spire a mooring mast for Zeppelins, it would be a different story. Maybe blimps would still be a popular method of air travel and there would be more sky-high terminals across the globe in the middle of urban centers.
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From a Eurocentric perspective, I will echo the Pantheon. A vast concrete dome, that still has an element of agility letting in natural light. My first instinct was Hagia Sophia, or maybe the Dome of the Rock -- but both buildings are part of a majestic domed lineage with roots in Hadrian's masterpiece.
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I'm confused about why people keep mentioning the Great Pyramids. How did they contribute to architectural innovation?

I thought this is a discussion of structures which most contributed to the advancement of architecture + design, not whether the structures were iconic (in which case, yeah, the Pyramids or Eifel Tower are probably best options).
Totally agree (and I live in a city that's one of the few with a building that might be said to relate back to the pyramids).
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From a Eurocentric perspective, I will echo the Pantheon. A vast concrete dome, that still has an element of agility letting in natural light. My first instinct was Hagia Sophia, or maybe the Dome of the Rock -- but both buildings are part of a majestic domed lineage with roots in Hadrian's masterpiece.
You don't have to be Eurocentric. The arch and the dome are utterly essential to modern architecture, around the world, but they were perfected in Rome.
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The Empire State Building belongs in this discussion somewhere.

It is definitely the most significant building in the US/Canada.
Again, the essential contribution involved in skyscrapers really was the elevator and certain engineering techniques that most experts say were first developed in Chicago--usually they cite the Home Insurance Building of 1885 at Adams and Lasalle Sts.

From 1885 on, buildings just got taller but the architecture and enginnering were derivative. Also, when it comes to NY skyscrapers of the 1930s, the Chrysler Building was probably more classically beautiful. But the Empire State gets noticed just because it's taller.
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Again, the essential contribution involved in skyscrapers really was the elevator and certain engineering techniques that most experts say were first developed in Chicago--usually they cite the Home Insurance Building of 1885 at Adams and Lasalle Sts.

From 1885 on, buildings just got taller but the architecture and enginnering were derivative. Also, when it comes to NY skyscrapers of the 1930s, the Chrysler Building was probably more classically beautiful. But the Empire State gets noticed just because it's taller.
I don't think just because it's taller. Much taller.

It's just a perfect looking skyscraper. The scale, setbacks, vertical lines, symmetry, heirarchy, location, red trim, amazing spire (although I do love the original) just perfection.
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Which ever structure was the first to have four walls and a roof would be my vote.
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