"No, The Other One"

[Crawford]

Metro Detroit has a Beverly Hills, though it's a fairly anonymous postwar middle-to-upper-middle class suburb. Not particularly associated with wealth.

[SFBruin]

Originally Posted by Comrade

Pettygrove won. Had it flipped the other way, it would've been known as Boston, Oregon.

Boy would that have been a disaster.

At least Portland, ME is a largely regional city that doesn't have any major professional sports teams.

[dave8721]

Hollywood, FL didn't get on the map? Or Miami, Oklahoma? Or even Jupiter, FL?

[craigs]

Originally Posted by SFBruin

I don't entirely know the history, but it is entirely possible that STL was a larger and more prestigious metro than was LA in 1920.

According to this list from SkyscraperCity (sorry, I'm too lazy to compile a list like this from original sources tonight between cocktails), metropolitan St. Louis was more populous in 1920 than was metropolitan Los Angeles. And, because it was more established, I can buy that it was presumably more prestigious as well. According to the same source, however, metro LA had about a million more people than did Metro St. Louis by 1930.

Again, the following is is from SkyscraperCity as linked above, and if you don't like it, take it up with the guy who made it. I'm posting it because I don't have a better source.

Metropolitan Areas -- 1920
1.New York -- 8,490,694
2.Chicago -- 3,521,789
3.Philadelphia -- 2,714,271
4.Boston -- 2,315,111
5.Pittsburgh -- 1,759,989
6.Detroit -- 1,305,798
7.St. Louis -- 1,139,877
8.San Francisco -- 1,009,467
9.Los Angeles -- 997,830
10.Cleveland -- 972,162
11.Baltimore -- 852,051
12.Buffalo -- 753,393
13.Minneapolis -- 704,566
14.Cincinnati -- 628,999
15.Washington -- 571,882
16.Milwaukee -- 539,449
17.Providence -- 536,572
18.Kansas City -- 528,833
19.Worcester -- 455,135
20.New Haven -- 415,214
21.New Orleans -- 413,750
22.Albany -- 408,598
23.Wilkes-Barre -- 390,991
24.Seattle -- 389,273
25.Portland -- 372,777
26.Springfield -- 369,904
27.Youngstown -- 364,018
28.New Bedford -- 359,005
29.Rochester -- 352,034
30.Indianapolis -- 348,061
31.Allentown -- 346,664
32.Louisville -- 346,411
33.Hartford -- 336,027
34.Bridgeport -- 320,936
35.Birmingham -- 310,054
36.Atlanta -- 307,094
37.Wheeling -- 303,848
38.Denver -- 299,087
39.Scranton -- 286,311
40.Akron -- 286,065
41.Columbus -- 283,951
42.Johnstown -- 279,951
43.Toledo -- 275,721
44.Omaha -- 275,444
45.Duluth -- 256,162
46.Utica -- 247,795
47.Syracuse -- 241,465
48.Norfolk -- 241,148
49.Dayton -- 240,753
50.Memphis -- 223,216
51.Harrisburg -- 211,694
52.Richmond -- 211,135
53.Dallas -- 210,551
54.San Antonio -- 202,096
55.Reading -- 200,854
56.Houston -- 186,667
57.Wilmington -- 184,811
58.Grand Rapids -- 183,041
59.Charleston -- 180,027
60.Canton -- 177,218
61.Lancaster -- 173,797
62.Nashville -- 167,815
63.Davenport -- 166,249
64.Huntington -- 160,580
65.Knoxville -- 160,024
66.Trenton -- 159,881
67.Salt Lake City -- 159,282
68.Brockton -- 156,968
69.Des Moines -- 154,029
70.Erie -- 153,536
71.Fort Worth -- 152,800
72.Peoria -- 150,250
73.York -- 144,521
74.Tacoma -- 144,127
75.Spokane -- 141,289
76.Chattanooga -- 139,324
77.Manchester -- 135,512
78.Fresno -- 128,779
79.Altoona -- 128,334
80.Flint -- 125,668
81.Portland -- 124,376
82.Honolulu -- 123,496
83.Tampa -- 116,522
84.Oklahoma City -- 116,307
85.Fort Wayne -- 114,303
86.Binghamton -- 113,610
87.Jacksonville -- 113,540
88.Pittsfield -- 113,033
89.San Diego -- 112,248
90.Little Rock -- 109,464
91.Augusta -- 109,266
92.Tulsa -- 109,023
93.Charleston -- 108,450
94.South Bend -- 103,304
95.El Paso -- 101,877
96.San Jose -- 100,676
97.Saginaw -- 100,286
98.Springfield -- 100,262
99.Terre Haute -- 100,212
100.Mobile -- 100,117
101.Savannah -- 100,032
UNITED STATES -- 106,021,537

[SFBruin]

Gotcha. I knew that LA grew like a weed at some point early in the 20th century, but I couldn't remember exactly when.

[DetroitSky]

Originally Posted by Centropolis

yes, this is what i’m talking about. there was a slew of recycled pre-ww2 place names used across the united states for early automobile-era real estate developments and even before and a lot of them were regurgitated/altered place names from the british isles.

Highland Park is another one of these. Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC and I'm sure plenty of others have suburbs named Highland Park.

[xzmattzx]

We like to think of our Newark as the "good" one. We also pronounce it differently, which helps differentiate between the two.

Our Wilmington is usually considered the other Wilmington by outsiders. The North Carolina one is the one most people know about.

Atlanta is really nothing more than a rural intersection of two country roads.

Houston would've been a better option for Delaware than Atlanta. Our Houston is pronounced differently, though.

[jbermingham123]

God the St. Louis, Michigan one is a real doozy given the state's initials: MI.

Given that ZIP codes didnt exist until the 60's, you gotta wonder how many poor fools throughout history have sent mail meant for St. Louis, Missouri to "St. Louis, MI"

[JManc]

Originally Posted by xzmattzx

We like to think of our Newark as the "good" one. We also pronounce it differently, which helps differentiate between the two.

Our Wilmington is usually considered the other Wilmington by outsiders. The North Carolina one is the one most people know about.

Atlanta is really nothing more than a rural intersection of two country roads.

Houston would've been a better option for Delaware than Atlanta. Our Houston is pronounced differently, though.

I grew up learning about DE's Wilmington first and NC's much later.

[jbermingham123]

Originally Posted by JManc

I grew up learning about DE's Wilmington first and NC's much later.

Yeah i've never been to either Wilmington, but until just now, I had no idea there was a Wilmington other than Delaware's

[jbermingham123]

Fun fact for DC area forumers: I grew up in the other Great Falls

[SFBruin]

SF has its own Newark. It's a kind of small (I think) town next to Fremont.

[SIGSEGV]

Newark is an electronics distributor, apparently with US HQ in Chicago? (But a subsidiary of Farnell)

[pip]

^are you back from your Artic adventure?

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by pip

^are you back from your Artic adventure?

I am! (see the My City Photos thread)

[plinko]

Originally Posted by jbermingham123

Yeah i've never been to either Wilmington, but until just now, I had no idea there was a Wilmington other than Delaware's

In the western US, Wilmington, NC comes up during school because of its port. The only thing I remember learning about Delaware was that it was the first state...nothing else.

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by plinko

In the western US, Wilmington, NC comes up during school because of its port. The only thing I remember learning about Delaware was that it was the first state...nothing else.

Wilmington, IL is the resting stop of the Gemini Giant:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3103...7i16384!8i8192

(and, unfortunately, also the first place you see confederate flags, driving SW on Route 66 from Chicago: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3094...7i16384!8i8192)

[10023]

Originally Posted by lio45

Wonder if there's any New Yorker aware that the state of Wyoming contains no less than all of the following: an Albany, a Buffalo, and an Atlantic City

I mean, Buffalo makes perfect sense (even if it should be Bison). Far more than in western NY state, actually. Albany, fine. But Atlantic City?

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by DetroitSky

Highland Park is another one of these. Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC and I'm sure plenty of others have suburbs named Highland Park.

Dallas. Dallas itself also has a Highland Park Village neighborhood adjacent to Highland Park, TX.

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Metro Detroit has a Beverly Hills, though it's a fairly anonymous postwar middle-to-upper-middle class suburb. Not particularly associated with wealth.

Beverly Hills, MO is like teens/20s suburban worker bungalows, lol. Almost brick shotgun houses in places.


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