City Murder Rates - Page 150

Acajack · #**2981** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 3:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Ottawa now at 12 after one last night in the heart of the city (very close to Canada's federal parliament).

Toronto is at 41.

Montreal is holding at 13.

Toronto at 42 now.

Doady · #**2982** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 7:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Overall violent crime rates in NYC for July 2021 are trending to be the lowest in recorded history (records go back to the late 1950's). Also, subway crime is trending to near record-lows (granted, there are fewer riding transit during the pandemic).

So the reality is that the nation's largest city currently has the lowest crime rates ever recorded. Guarantee this news won't make any impact on the "American cities are violent hellholes" narrative.

Problem is, crime rates only include the reported crimes, they don't include the unreported crimes. The police forces and the justice system have lost more and more of their power over time because of the Left, and it is still ongoing, so it's no surprise that the reported crime rates in many Left-leaning places like NYC have been dropping also. You see can it in Canadian cities as well, a country that doesn't even have the death penalty anymore, punishment for crimes is minimal, the justice system has become so weak that many people don't even bother to report crimes now. So the reported crime rates gives Canadian cities the appearance of being safer than American cities, but the unreported crimes would tell a different story.

Crawford · #**2983** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Doady

Problem is, crime rates only include the reported crimes, they don't include the unreported crimes.

Such a crazy narrative is quite useful, actually. When the data reflects your worldview, you can believe it, and when it doesn't, you can claim "fakenews".

The idea that murders and other violent crimes are hidden, and that the public no longer wishes to make insurance claims, they'll just let their belongings disappear, is insane, BTW.

Northern Light · #**2984** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Such a crazy narrative is quite useful, actually. When the data reflects your worldview, you can believe it, and when it doesn't, you can claim "fakenews".

The idea that murders and other violent crimes are hidden, and that the public no longer wishes to make insurance claims, they'll just let their belongings disappear, is insane, BTW.

While, as a rule of thumb, most of us don't want to be seen agreeing with Crawford........

He happens to be right this time.

Northern Light · #**2985** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Doady

Problem is, crime rates only include the reported crimes, they don't include the unreported crimes. The police forces and the justice system have lost more and more of their power over time because of the Left, and it is still ongoing, so it's no surprise that the reported crime rates in many Left-leaning places like NYC have been dropping also. You see can it in Canadian cities as well, a country that doesn't even have the death penalty anymore, punishment for crimes is minimal, the justice system has become so weak that many people don't even bother to report crimes now. So the reported crime rates gives Canadian cities the appearance of being safer than American cities, but the unreported crimes would tell a different story.

This is a statement that borders the clinical definition of insanity.

Precisely how many dead bodies do you think the police are overlooking or misclassifying as death by natural causes when it isn't so?

Small crime is almost always on a proportionate line to more serious crime.

If you can accurately track murders and serious assaults, and shootings, you have a pretty good idea what's going on with 'lesser' crimes as well.

****

Also, while its true that Canada's incarceration rate is well below that of the U.S. (Highest vs #143 in the world according to Wikipedia)

Its also true that Canada incarcerates more people per capita than France, Belgium, Italy and almost the exact same as South Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rate

Camelback · #**2986** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 9:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Overall violent crime rates in NYC for July 2021 are trending to be the lowest in recorded history (records go back to the late 1950's). Also, subway crime is trending to near record-lows (granted, there are fewer riding transit during the pandemic).

So the reality is that the nation's largest city currently has the lowest crime rates ever recorded. Guarantee this news won't make any impact on the "American cities are violent hellholes" narrative.

What is your source of information?

How has your source compiled July 2021 data when July hasn't ended?

The last source of data compiled May 2021 indicated a huge increase in violent crimes.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/...stics-may-2021

montréaliste · #**2987** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 1:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Northern Light

While, as a rule of thumb, most of us don't want to be seen agreeing with Crawford........

He happens to be right this time.

Lol, well put.

SIGSEGV · #**2988** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 3:01 AM**

It never ceases to amaze me how often people don't catch on to doady's satire.

dleung · #**2989** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 4:46 AM**

lol just discovered this thread... still trying to figure out what the fun is in doing this haha, it's like the report-your-city's-weather-today thread, except one can't even draw any conclusions from monthly or yearly fluctuations in such tiny sets of data.

Vancouver has 11 homicides this year, up 38% from last year's 8 - it's an epidemic! - FOX News

LosAngelesSportsFan · #**2990** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Doady

Problem is, crime rates only include the reported crimes, they don't include the unreported crimes. The police forces and the justice system have lost more and more of their power over time because of the Left, and it is still ongoing, so it's no surprise that the reported crime rates in many Left-leaning places like NYC have been dropping also. You see can it in Canadian cities as well, a country that doesn't even have the death penalty anymore, punishment for crimes is minimal, the justice system has become so weak that many people don't even bother to report crimes now. So the reported crime rates gives Canadian cities the appearance of being safer than American cities, but the unreported crimes would tell a different story.

In regards to crime other than homicide... Absolutely, 100% true. In California, since the passage of prop 47 and similar bs progressive social justice nonsense laws in 2014, plenty of things are no longer reported or even called in, such as shoplifting, which is now basically never stopped. If the items stolen are under $950, nothing can be done and cops aren't even called

tablemtn · #**2991** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 9:36 PM**

Minnesota reported the most murders in state history last year (in raw numbers):

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In 2020 there were 222 homicides reported for the state. Of that number, 36 offenses were ruled negligent and 1 were ruled unfounded or justifiable, yielding a total of 185 criminal homicide victims.

2020 Minnesota Uniform Crime Report

That's a 58.1% increase from the 117 murders reported in 2019. As a matter of rate, that's 3.3 per 100,000, which is the highest since Minnesota hit 3.6 in 1996 (the all-time high was 3.9 in 1995). In fact, this is only the 6th time that the rate has hit 3.3+ in state history. The rate was 3.3 in 1975, 3.3 in 1992, 3.4 in 1993, then 1995/1996, and now 2020. Even though Minnesota's median age appears to be significantly higher in 2020 than any of those other years (rising age strongly correlates to LOWER murder rates).

Buckeye Native 001 · #**2992** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 11:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

It never ceases to amaze me how often people don't catch on to doady's satire.

I've fallen victim to it, but he's the forum's Jonathan Swift.

Camelback · #**2993** Posted **Jul 31, 2021, 12:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by aaronevill

Hey Camelback...you can find weekly updates at https://compstat.nypdonline.org/ Notice Crawford was saying JULY. As the city reopened, crime has been gradually declining since the peak earlier this year. Sorry if this doesn't fit your narrative of NY being a crime ridden hellscape.

Hi aaronevill, I hope NYC violent crime decreases. (I really don't care, because I don't live there)

Downward trends are good. You can cut those trends into weeks and days. However, the last few years the trend has been up, and was exasperated by covid-19, the exodus and other nonsensical city policies.

I hope that NYC bucks that latest downward trend and gets back to where it was.

proghousehead · #**2994** Posted **Jul 31, 2021, 12:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Camelback

Hi aaronevill, I hope NYC violent crime decreases. (I really don't care, because I don't live there)

Downward trends are good. You can cut those trends into weeks and days. However, the last few years the trend has been up, and was exasperated by covid-19, the exodus and other nonsensical city policies.

I hope that NYC bucks that latest downward trend and gets back to where it was.

You don’t live here. Therefore you apparently “don’t care”. That’s an awful
Lot of text for someone indifferent. Are you sure you don’t care? I don’t bother commenting on issues I don’t care about - so genuinely curious. Cheers.

Acajack · #**2995** Posted **Jul 31, 2021, 1:52 AM**

43 in Toronto now.

Montreal and Ottawa holding steady for now.

Camelback · #**2996** Posted **Jul 31, 2021, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by proghousehead

You don’t live here. Therefore you apparently “don’t care”. That’s an awful
Lot of text for someone indifferent. Are you sure you don’t care? I don’t bother commenting on issues I don’t care about - so genuinely curious. Cheers.

I care about the accuracy of what's being reported, so I responded to a post that came to a conclusion crime is near record lows, which is obviously misleading.

On 7/27/2021:
"violent crime rates in NYC for July 2021 are trending to be the lowest in recorded history"

"So the reality is that the nation's largest city currently has the lowest crime rates ever recorded"

The last full month of information to be tallied, June 2021 from June 2020
Murders up +21
Rapes up +32
Felony assaults up +645

Acajack · #**2997** Posted **Aug 1, 2021, 2:44 AM**

Just a general comment: it's a bit surreal to read posts talking about plummeting crime rates probably based on kids being less likely to get their bikes stolen, or fewer bags of chips getting shoplifted...

KevinFromTexas · #**2998** Posted **Aug 1, 2021, 11:20 PM**

Causes metrowide
Shooting - 48
Stabbing - 6
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 0
Vehicular homicide - 0
Blunt force trauma - 1
Sharp force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 5
Domestic terrorism - 0

Austin totals
Downtown - 5
Central Austin - 2
East Austin - 7
North Austin - 9
Northeast Austin - 6
Northwest Austin - 6
South Austin - 5
Southeast Austin - 6
Southwest Austin - 0
West Austin - 0

Victims
Male - 41
Female - 12
Unlisted - 6

| Jan 7 | Feb 10 | Mar 11 | Apr 7 | May 7 | Jun 9 | Jul 7 | Aug 1 | Sep 0 | Oct 0 | Nov 0 | Dec 0 |

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| Mon 8 | Tue 7 | Wed 8 | Thur 7 | Fri 5 | Sat 9 | Sun 14 |

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Murder cases

Code:

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspect-charged-with-capital-murder-after-man-was-found-dead-in-round-rock/?utm_campaign=alert_bar&utm_source=side_bullets - Round Rock shooting - 1/9

1 dead - https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/one-person-dead-after-shooting-in-northeast-austin - Austin shooting - 1/11

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-5000-brighton-road - Austin shooting - 1/18

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/01/22/hays-county-sheriffs-office-investigating-apparent-shooting/6681601002/ - Buda shooting - 1/21

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-killed-after-shootout-between-two-groups-at-north-austin-complex-police-say/ - Austin shooting - 1/23

2 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-1912-w-35th-street - Austin shooting - 1/26

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/one-person-dead-after-shooting-in-north-austin/?fbclid=IwAR2QlQlGL89M9QlIMXNDSAU9spvMEhu31Cpqo8Jsl-tQaPXWOlrPLuNNY4o - Austin shooting - 1/29

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-suspicious-death-in-east-austin-2/ - Austin shooting - 2/2

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/police-investigating-suspicious-death-in-southeast-austin-3/ - Austin obvious trauma - 2/3

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspicious-death-being-investigated-in-central-austin/ - Austin shooting - 2/6

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-suspected-murder-suicide-at-cedar-park-home/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2d0OJqQ9Lwib8K-06sGBipshijYzvjNIcP2vCkMkef1W-GjrUamnIZ9ws - Cedar Park murder/suicide - 2/9

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/19-year-old-man-stabbed-and-killed-northeast-austin-fight-police-say/ - Austin stabbing - 2/16

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-faces-murder-charge-after-wife-found-dead-at-south-austin-hotel-room/ - Austin unlisted cause - 2/16

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/toddler-dies-during-february-winter-storm-austin-police-investigating-as-homicide/ - Austin unlisted cause - 2/18

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/travis-county-deputies-investigate-possible-murder-suicide-involving-two-male-relatives/ - Pflugervile shooting - 2/19

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/25/hutto-teacher-julie-hall-disappearance-husband-travis-hall-charged-with-murder/5352450001/ - Hutto blunt force trauma - 2/19 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/one-man-dead-after-shooting-at-north-austin-apartment-complex/ - Austin shooting - 2/28

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-deadly-shooting-in-downtown-austin-early-sunday-morning/ - Austin shooting - 3/14

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-arrested-on-murder-charge-after-san-marcos-woman-found-dead-on-backyard-patio/ - San Marcos body found - 3/15

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/homicide-investigation-underway-after-death-thursday-morning-in-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 3/18

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/one-person-dies-in-southeast-austin-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 3/21

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-reporting-to-scene-of-shooting-incident-in-northwest-austin-residents-should-avoid-the-area/ - Austin shooting - 3/22

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-suspicious-death-in-south-austin-neighborhood/ - Austin shooting - 3/25

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-6600-block-bradley-dr - Austin shooting - 3/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-taken-to-a-hospital-with-life-threatening-injuries-after-shooting-at-east-austin-home/ - Austin shooting - 3/28

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-11100-block-n-ih-35-svrd - Austin shooting - 3/28 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-homicide-in-nw-austin/ - Austin shooting - 3/31

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/leander-texas-police-knife-suspect/269-2018951c-a1c4-4d00-b9b4-c543b4ff4e3a - Leander stabbing - 3/31

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-deadly-shooting-in-se-austin/ - Austin shooting - 4/6

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-police-investigating-homicide-in-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 4/13

3 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/active-shooter-reported-at-arboretum-in-northwest-austin-3-reportedly-injured/ - Austin shooting  - 4/18

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/poli...stin-homicide/ - Austin shooting - 4/25

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...in-apartments/ - Austin shooting - 4/29

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...dziJCzKgAY6OeM - Austin shooting - 5/2

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/16-y...n-bell-county/ - Austin shooting - 5/5

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/cr...a-a8fd7e9920c3 - Lockhart shooting - 5/7

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...g-for-suspect/ - Austin shooting - 5/15

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/15-y...wntown-austin/ - Austin shooting - 5/20

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homi...us-highway-290 - Austin shooting - 5/23

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ty/5286265001/ - Pflugerville stabbing - 5/31

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/top-stories/tcs...-south-austin/ - Pflugerville shooting - 6/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...theast-austin/ - Austin shooting - 6/11

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...mass-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 6/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 6/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...n-parking-lot/ - Austin shooting - 6/17

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/1-de...stin-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 6/20

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...n-east-austin/ - Austin shooting - 6/23

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...y-expo-center/ - Austin shooting - 6/24

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...ied-by-police/ - Austin stabbing - 6/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/1-de...in-cedar-park/ - Cedar Park shooting - 7/7

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/man-dead-t...thwest-austin/ - Austin shooting - 7/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/1-pe...ar-6th-street/ - Austin shooting - 7/17

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/homi...tion-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 7/17

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/ceda...tment-complex/ - Cedar Park stabbing - 7/20

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homi...-frontage-road - Austin stabbing - 7/23

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/will...ning-homicide/ - Round Rock shooting - 7/26

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/pers...unday-morning/ - Austin shooting - 8/1

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Pending cases

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1 dead - https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/apd-investigating-deceased-person-in-hotel-room-in-north-central-austin - 2/14 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/18-year-old-found-dead-on-recycling-center-conveyor-belt-in-travis-county/ - 3/24

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/28-year-old-dies-morning-after-fight-at-east-austin-strip-club-suspect-arrested/ - Austin beating - 4/7

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/adult-pronounced-dead-after-being-found-in-ravine-by-bystanders-off-us-290/ - Austin body found - 5/20

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/man-dies-after-reportedly-being-run-over-by-car-in-north-austin-parking-lot/ - Austin vehicular homicide - 6/25

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Austin area population

City: 995,484 (July 1, 2020 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,273,954 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,295,303 (July 1, 2020 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

Acajack · #**2999** Posted **Aug 2, 2021, 1:12 PM**

Toronto now at 44.

No change in Montreal and Ottawa.

Graphic showing 2021 homicide rates across Canada as of July 31:

https://twitter.com/homicide_canada/...637707/photo/1

lio45 · #**3000** Posted **Aug 2, 2021, 1:44 PM**

How do we explain that Toronto has ~3x Montreal's rate? Haven't paid attention lately to whatever is the explanation.

(I'm not following Australia much, but if I learned that Melbourne has 3x Sydney's crime rate or vice versa, I'd likely raise an eyebrow.)