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Old Posted Feb 26, 2019, 6:00 PM
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This problem can be remedied by having a few trains per hour stop at the King St station. These people will have to board another train to continue to the transit center. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. This train would be less crowded during commute hours, and may even be preferable for those whose final stop is before downtown. It is more likely to be a local train, allowing express trains the priority to just continue their route into the city.

The best long-term solution is to continue to dig under the bay all the way to Alameda Station, build some housing, and continue to Oakland. The train can then split to go North to Berkeley/Sacramento or continue East to the new Oakland A's stadium and Jack London Sq. That would be what a global A-class city would do.

You wouldn't have to build CAHSR north to Sacramento like previously planned, it could simply continue from SF along existing Amtrak lines.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2019, 6:47 PM
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The Starbucks at the Salesforce Tower just opened today (5th floor). This has direct access to the park.

Salesforce workers are able to go on the Transbay Center Park... but not too far from the Starbucks.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 7:48 PM
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Retail leasing update at the board meeting today!

A lot of detail here on repairs progress for anyone interested:
http://tjpa.org/uploads/2019/03/Item...te-3-14-19.pdf

http://tjpa.org/uploads/2019/03/Item...esentation.pdf



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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 8:14 PM
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Wow, 2 Philz? Haha
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Are they actually working on fixing the cracked beams in this thing yet? Or are they still just talking and writing reports about it?
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2019, 5:05 AM
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Are they actually working on fixing the cracked beams in this thing yet? Or are they still just talking and writing reports about it?
Latest I heard is that it will open first week of June.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2019, 2:42 AM
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This reddit thread has several great pictures of the new beams.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisc...ransit_center/

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Old Posted Apr 11, 2019, 12:05 AM
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Transbay Transit Center repairs to be completed by beginning of June
By Hannah Norman – Digital Producer, San Francisco Business Times
Apr 10, 2019, 2:37pm PDT Updated 57 minutes ago

Inside the shuttered Salesforce Transit Center, construction crews are busy repairing the cracked steel beams above Fremont Street. Workers are also bolstering similarly designed beams above First Street that support the upper bus deck.

The reinforcement work is scheduled for a June 1 completion, the Transbay Joint Powers Authority said Wednesday. The $2.2 billion transit hub has been closed since September after discovery of the cracked beams.

The steel for the repairs was manufactured in Pennsylvania and then delivered to the fabricator, Stockton-based Herrick, in March. Installation of the “sandwiches” of two steel plates for each of the eight steel girders is now underway. The 16 plates are each 8-inches thick and made of the highest possible grade steel . . . .

The transit hub’s reopening date, however, has yet to be determined, as the Metropolitan Transportation Commission still needs to finish its independent peer review report, and the bus agencies need time to transition their services from the temporary terminal. That could take at least two weeks and maybe longer, Turchon said.

Costs from the repairs and closure are mounting. TJPA spokeswoman Christine Falvey said that the costs for the MTC report, the special inspections and lab testing, and the additional design work by Pelli Clark Pelli amount to $4.1 million. That's not including the construction work, which is significantly more. Webcor declined to share construction costs.

The cracks were caused by skipping a necessary grinding process, among other lapses, but it's unclear which party will be held accountable . . . .
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...809&j=87749411

Well, at least after a wet winter with no humans trafficing around stomping on things, I'd expect the greenery on the roof to be nicely grown.
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Well, at least after a wet winter with no humans trafficing around stomping on things, I'd expect the greenery on the roof to be nicely grown.
Very true, the vegetation must have grown substantially. On a side note, hopefully they also repaired the walking path that was buckling shortly after the Center opened.
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Very true, the vegetation must have grown substantially. On a side note, hopefully they also repaired the walking path that was buckling shortly after the Center opened.
They repaired the path a while back, I could see it from my office above.
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Noticed the support structures were gone on Fremont St this afternoon.

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Update to the crumbling path on top of the Transit Center.

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Less than a year after it opened, the pathway that runs through the troubled Transbay Transit Center’s rooftop park is being torn out and replaced at a cost upward of $1 million.
After months of repeatedly patching up the eco-friendly path, officials have determined it is beyond repair.
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“Clearly, the path is not measuring up to ours or the public’s expectations, and we need to fix that,” Transbay Joint Powers Authority spokeswoman Christine Falvey said.

In its brief lifetime, the walkway gave thousands of visitors access to the park’s attractions and botanical displays, all framed by panoramic views of the surrounding streets and buildings.

Unfortunately, the decomposed granite used in the pathway, which winds the length of the three-block-long park, failed to hold up even under normal foot traffic.In fact, the walkway began falling apart before the $2.2 billion transit center opened last August, with dozens of spots along the half-mile loop cratering like sidewalk potholes.
The walkway was only in full use for about six weeks before the entire center was closed in September when cracks were discovered in two of its key support beams.

But even without foot traffic, the path continued to deteriorate in the winter rains.“We want to rebuild the path with a cost-effective, easy-to-maintain, durable material,” Falvey said.She estimated demolishing and removing the pathway would cost about $500,000.

Replacing the 10-foot-wide walkway will mean pumping about 50 cement trucks’ worth of material 70 feet up to the center’s fourth-floor roof garden. Workers are already tearing out the walkway and hauling the debris out in giant bags.
Bids are still out for the replacement work, so it’s too early to say for certain what the final cost will be. Sources, however, said it would likely cost at least another $500,000 to replace the walkway with concrete, bringing the total to $1 million — likely more.

Who pays for the fix remains to be seen.

Falvey said the walkway is a warranty issue. The center’s main contractor, Webcor/Obayashi Joint Venture, disagrees.
Webcor/Obayashi “repeatedly cautioned the TJPA that the product was not right for the project,” said Amanda Gillespie, vice president of Webcor Builders. “The TJPA directed the product be installed as specified and then modified the standard manufacturer’s mix to attain the custom dark gray color. WOJV views this as an error in product specification, and the product has performed as WOJV and McGuire & Hester forewarned.”

The next stop will be a hearing before a dispute resolution board to determine who will pay.
Replacing the crumbling path is the latest repair needed on the massive transit center. The fix on the cracked beams is expected to be completed in June, but a reopening date has yet to be set pending an independent review of the entire center’s construction.

The hope is to have the walkway back in operation by reopening day as well.
“The goal is to have a majority of the work done on the walkway by our reopening day to minimize the impact to the public,” Falvey said.“What’s the rush? You can’t get into the building anyway,” said Supervisor Aaron Peskin, who chairs the San Francisco County Transportation Authority.

“This is the city that knows how — to screw up every major project,” Peskin said.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/philma...p?t=751f2768e6

Hopefully the Concrete they pour will last a little longer.
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“This is the city that knows how — to screw up every major project.”
Peskin is such a twat. This guy has pretty much only ever complained about how things turn out and worked to block/stall projects while providing no real path forward or applicable reform.

He's the guy that shows up at the last minute to tell everyone, "I could have done it better".
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^^Yeah, but building a walking path shouldn't be the toughest engineering job on the planet. What's the walkway on New York's "highline" made of? Just copy it.
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It says above that the TJPA chose eco-sidewalks and then treated them with darkening agent, against the advice of the building contractors. They even noted that multiple warnings were placed. Whoever made those decisions will have a nice beefy pension waiting for them. The contractors do at least seem to be working hard on top of the park now.
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Supports Removed

They have removed the large hydraulic supports from the Fremont St undercrossing. The First St supports still remain.
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Fix of San Francisco’s Fractured Transit Center Nearly Complete
May 9, 2019

The repair and remediation of the fractured beams that resulted in the emergency closure of San Francisco’s new Salesforce Transit Center has been completed ahead of schedule and all temporary shoring has been removed.

In addition, the installation of an all-new pathway atop the transit center’s roof, replacing the original decomposed granite, which was continuing to decompose, with a concrete pour, will soon commence.

. . . a comprehensive inspection of the entire structure has yet to raise any new red flags or concerns. And as such, the Salesforce Transit Center and its rooftop park could potentially re-open in June . . . .
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Salesforce Transit Center cleared to open any day now
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Jun. 11, 2019 8:19 a.m.NEWS

The Salesforce Transit Center is cleared to reopen, its steel structure deemed “sound” for service.

That’s according to an independent peer review panel called for by San Francisco and Oakland’s mayors, after cracked steel beams were discovered in the transbay center last year.

“We can represent to you and the public alike confidence that the Transbay Transit Center’s girder problem was isolated and that the appropriate repairs have been performed,” wrote Therese McMillan, executive director of the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, in a letter to San Francisco Mayor London Breed and Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf sent Monday.

And that also may mean the transbay transit center will open within days, as transit officials said last week that they would reopen the rooftop park and grand hall immediately after an independent peer review panel concludes reviews of necessary inspections.

But don’t expect AC Transit and Muni buses to start rolling through the facility immediately. Transit officials also warned last week that even if the transbay transit center was given the OK to open, it may take weeks for bus service to return there. At the very least, the public can now be assured that its $2.2 billion facility is safe to use . . . .
https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sale...n-any-day-now/
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Confirmed July 1st at 6AM.

I'm planning to get there on July 1st at 6am and take a walk-through video like my last one so you guys can see if there have been any changes in the past year. Hopefully I can ride the gondola as well.

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I'll see if I can get enough shots to do another montage video too. I'm going to use a mirrorless camera now. My previous videos were made from my iPhone X lol

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