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Old Posted Apr 12, 2021, 5:28 PM
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I wish the louvers were on the north side, where they would be somewhat less conspicuous.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2021, 4:02 PM
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^ Except isn’t the north side considered the front of the building?
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2021, 4:09 PM
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^ Except isn’t the north side considered the front of the building?
The north side is the more picturesque angle but I'd say 100X the number of people experience the building from the south. Especially because upper Wacker on the north side is a dead end and not a thoroughfare.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2021, 4:24 PM
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Biggest disappointment in a supertall in a while. Those mechanical floors or just awful and ruin the whole tower.
I agree. The undulation of the building looks really cool, as does the gradation of the glass. But those mechanical/blow through floors look horrendous and completely mar the building. I can't believe no one has found a more elegant way to solve the problem, and I hope something can be done in the future to remedy it. I'm surprised St. Regis wants their name associated with this tower, tbh.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2021, 8:41 PM
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Going to have to disagree with all you because from the Glenview Park District i can see Sears, Chump, Aon, John, and my favorite Vista in all their glory....
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2021, 12:48 PM
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The tallest part of the tower has that mangy starved look of those hideous 57th street hot money deposit towers in Manhattan.

It's disappointing but it's tall and helps fill in the skyline which is all that can be said for it.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2021, 1:48 AM
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2021, 12:56 AM
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^ You’d be a hoot at a gala.

Imagine the money, man-hours, ingenuity, and effort spent on this tower. It’s certainly appreciated by this grateful citizen. The bldg is a welcome addition to our cityscape.
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2021, 1:21 AM
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This tower draws strong emotions - both pro and con. Every great skyline needs a few of these occasionally sprinkled in. Adds variation and dynamism. How boring it would be without towers like this one.

Btw, put me in the column that loves it!
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2021, 2:10 AM
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Honestly, the mechanical floors and blow through look quite coordinated from this angle...
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2021, 2:12 PM
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So... are there any actual new updates expected on this tower? What keeps it from being officially "done"?

We can keep debating whether the blowthrough and mechanical louvers are a minor blemish or aesthetic malpractice. But it feels like everyone has kind of said their piece at this point. Is there anything else left to talk about here?
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^ The pocket park, porte-cochere, etc on the north (Wacker) side are all still under construction. Interior work on the hotel is still underway, etc.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2021, 5:30 PM
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Still waiting for all the ropes to come down.
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The end of this thread will be the end of an era. It has lived through a changed world!



This is true
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Speaking of that this building is no longer U/C I believe.

Which supertall is next, Parcel I or Tribune East?

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^ The pocket park, porte-cochere, etc on the north (Wacker) side are all still under construction. Interior work on the hotel is still underway, etc.
EDIT: Nevermind, didn't realize that. Any day now...
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2021, 11:50 PM
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This building has come to represent to me the most salient characteristics of the current, embarrassingly unforgettable obsession in architectural

designs with gimmickry and pretense at the expense of the expression of integrity interwoven with a genius of economy. I do not worship at the

altar of Mies but this wiggling wall and finger and its many ilk popping up around the planet have turned the idea of "less is more" on its head.

The attitude broadcast by these googaws - designed to pander to the egos of the most pretentious and monetarily hoarding pseudo-members of

the societies which they seek to dominate - is strictly "more or less."

This building represents the costliness of rushed desperation as much as anything else. Look at me, Look at me, like the adage,

"pearls before swine" it will always need redemption from its own pretenses. Move the columns this way and that, cover them over with shallow

manipulated glass, punch a hole through it to make it less of a danger, and pretty soon you'll get Dr. Frankenstein to sign a contract!

Like so many politicos, "it depends upon what the meaning of the word 'Is' is" and, in so many cases nowadays, more has become much, much less

and the negative planetary effects continue to grow.

So, we are left with the only assessment allowed today - It could have been worse.
Agreed. ( I think! ). It's a mangy misbegotten thing that looks like it was picked up in a boot sale of scrappy scrapers somewhere in the Middle East but it does serve the function of making the Aon/2Pru buildings look classy and well designed and also it does fill out the skyline.
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2021, 2:45 PM
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Yeah your right they should have made it a tree house instead.
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2021, 4:31 PM
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Yes, I am often difficult.

Let me complicate the assessment of the building and its recent relatives farther.

Like so many ancient stelae, these contemporary expressions of the worship of the dominating power structure are part of a system which uses them

to keep us on the same path by distracting us from the fact that these islands of affluent excesses are intimately connected to the spread of

urban and environmental decay.

While celebrating the unwarranted privileges of the greediest members of society and their poverty of design sense, we are guaranteeing the

greater decline of everyone's wellness.

Imagine the improvements and jobs which could come about if the costs of these excesses in bad design had been used instead to build up those

neighborhoods which are in much greater need.

The now-former Vista and its ilk of billionaire perversity have always been vanity projects which primarily reinforce the path to greater

inequality and distraction.

Even just visually, it fails to be a positive addition to the skyline because of its self-absorbed gimmickry and shallow reflectivity.
I think you stumbled upon the wrong message board for your rant. . . but thanks for sharing. . .

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