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[paul78701]

The vast majority of the deaths, from what I understand, have been elderly and those with already compromised immune systems. The general, healthy adult probably doesn't need to excessively worry. That said, it would suck to get sick from it. If you're going to be spending time in public, the best thing you can do is wash your hands diligently.

[We vs us]

Originally Posted by SproutingTowers

Getting a little worried about SXSW where already seen other tech companies pull out of other large conventions and showcases.

I'm starting to think this is a major concern. If SXSW were happening on Monday I'd be less concerned, but it's 2.5 weeks away, and that's plenty of time for new COVID nodes to develop or be uncovered either globally or here in the US. No one at the CDC seems to think we're on the downside of the discoverability curve, and that's bad news for everyone. Aside from the mortality question, the blow to the economy (and tourism is on the leading edge of it here) is potentially catastrophic.

[austlar1]

Originally Posted by JoninATX

Not saying the Coronavirus isn't a cause for concern, but I do believe the media likes to over hype things. There acting like it's a zombie apocalypse.

If you've ever been to Italy, you'd realize these streets and squared are truly deserted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEq2gypI1-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E27JgIOljI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMytkjthsiE

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7...laylist=x64rzi

[KevinFromTexas]

Originally Posted by paul78701

The vast majority of the deaths, from what I understand, have been elderly and those with already compromised immune systems. The general, healthy adult probably doesn't need to excessively worry. That said, it would suck to get sick from it. If you're going to be spending time in public, the best thing you can do is wash your hands diligently.

Washing your hands is a good idea, but it's airborne, so doing that won't do you much good if you do come in contact with someone who has it. The incubation period is also what makes it difficult - up to three weeks, meaning that someone who already is carrying it won't show symptoms until then. How many people do we come in contact within three weeks, especially in a city?

Anyway, we have an extensive thread going in the CE forum on the coronavirus.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=241619

[Mopacs]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Washing your hands is a good idea, but it's airborne, so doing that won't do you much good if you do come in contact with someone who has it. The incubation period is also what makes it difficult - up to three weeks, meaning that someone who already is carrying it won't show symptoms until then. How many people do we come in contact within three weeks, especially in a city?

Anyway, we have an extensive thread going in the CE forum on the coronavirus.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=241619

Thanks for the link to the CE thread. I will follow it.

Unless the situation somehow improves, and given the short time we have before the festival, I think it's increasingly likely that SXSW will be severely impacted. To what extent remains to be seen.

[the Genral]

Originally Posted by Mopacs

Thanks for the link to the CE thread. I will follow it.

Unless the situation somehow improves, and given the short time we have before the festival, I think it's increasingly likely that SXSW will be severely impacted. To what extent remains to be seen.

No question that SXSW will be impacted and attendance + cash flow will be down, maybe way down. I always thought attendance was eventually going decrease anyway, but when we compare this years' and last years' numbers at least there will be an asterisk next to the results suggesting it was that damn virus and not the popularity of the event that caused the decreases.
I hear the 2020 Olympics may have to be cancelled. Regardless, Japan seems to stand to lose the most.

[Mopacs]

Originally Posted by the Genral

No question that SXSW will be impacted and attendance + cash flow will be down, maybe way down. I always thought attendance was eventually going decrease anyway, but when we compare this years' and last years' numbers at least there will be an asterisk next to the results suggesting it was that damn virus and not the popularity of the event that caused the decreases.
I hear the 2020 Olympics may have to be cancelled. Regardless, Japan seems to stand to lose the most.

There are also the other big events here in March - The rodeo and relays, among others. And yep, the Olympics are definitely in question. We're dealing with human nature/behavior just as much as the virus itself.

[JoninATX]

Originally Posted by austlar1

If you've ever been to Italy, you'd realize these streets and squared are truly deserted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEq2gypI1-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E27JgIOljI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMytkjthsiE

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7...laylist=x64rzi

Never been. But at least there taking precaution and not trying to spread it around.

[urbancore]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Washing your hands is a good idea, but it's airborne, so doing that won't do you much good if you do come in contact with someone who has it. The incubation period is also what makes it difficult - up to three weeks, meaning that someone who already is carrying it won't show symptoms until then. How many people do we come in contact within three weeks, especially in a city?

Anyway, we have an extensive thread going in the CE forum on the coronavirus.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=241619

dude, I did not need another thread to follow. Cali.....the promised land.....wtf?

[KevinFromTexas]

Yeah, my brother is in the tech industry and flies out to LA and the bay area a few times a year. He was just there a couple of weeks ago.

[urbancore]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Washing your hands is a good idea, but it's airborne, so doing that won't do you much good if you do come in contact with someone who has it. The incubation period is also what makes it difficult - up to three weeks, meaning that someone who already is carrying it won't show symptoms until then. How many people do we come in contact within three weeks, especially in a city?

Anyway, we have an extensive thread going in the CE forum on the coronavirus.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=241619

dude, I did not need another thread to follow. Cali.....the promised land.....wtf?

[urbancore]

It seems to me that we are mostly going to be fine......but we need to watch our asses, cuz this could really impact our elderly and infirmed.......which would be a complete disaster.

[urbancore]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Yeah, my brother is in the tech industry and flies out to LA and the bay area a few times a year. He was just there a couple of weeks ago.

My grandmother and my mother always claimed SF was their favorite city in the world (both world travelers). Mom told me last Christmas she will never go back. She is a "Haight Ashbury" Grateful Dead hippie. She lived there briefly in the 60-70's....when I was a baby. She can't believe what the city has become.

I haven't been since '04. But I have a TRUCK load of clients from Cali. Just sold a house last week in Eanes to my clients for $90k OVER ask (15 offers). They were THRILLED to not spend 20% over ask (the norm in SF they said). How can Austinites compete with that? They can't.

[Jdawgboy]

Originally Posted by atxsnail

wtf are you talking about? flu deaths certainly outnumber covid19 deaths in the aggregate, but the fatality rate for flu is a fraction of that for covid19.

btw, the covid19 outcome breakdown according to WHO was something like this:
80% mild symptoms - no hospitalization
20% severe or critical - could require significant medical intervention, including from respiratory support machines. the range of outcomes here includes shit like septic shock and organ failure. death rate seems to be around 2% but could change significantly.

freerover's chart show covid19's death rate as a pretty wide range, but either way it's WAY more than the 0.1% of ordinary seasonal flu.

this doesn't mean we need to panic and buy out costco, but we shouldn't ignore this potential threat.

Your exactly right, was I saying... Clearly got mixed up in what I was typing, in my defense, I was half asleep, medicated due to extreme back pain at the time and misheard a news story where a doctor was discussing comparisons between the flu and Coronavirus. Actually laughed at what I typed as it isn't what I thought I'd typed. Lesson of the story is I shouldn't post or even txt when I'm half passed out.

[drummer]

Hey guys, I've been slammed for a while, but I read on here occasionally. Here is the best source (Johns Hopkins University in partnership with others) for stats that I've seen on current cases:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6

[mostly_afk]

i saw a post this am that the governor is planning to address the media about an 'economic development'. anyone know if this the thing that started this thread a few weeks ago.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by mostly_afk

i saw a post this am that the governor is planning to address the media about an 'economic development'. anyone know if this the thing that started this thread a few weeks ago.

Maybe this is it? Posted to his Twitter 37 minutes ago. The Gov gets a trophy from Site Selection.

[deerhoof]

Originally Posted by The ATX

Maybe this is it? Posted to his Twitter 37 minutes ago. The Gov gets a trophy from Site Selection.

Did he delete the tweet because I don't see it?

[The ATX]

It's still at the top of his Twitter page.

https://twitter.com/GovAbbott?ref_sr...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I don't use Twitter, so I don't know much about it. Maybe someone's feed looks different depending on whether or not you're logged in.

[deerhoof]

Originally Posted by The ATX

It's still at the top of his Twitter page.

https://twitter.com/GovAbbott?ref_sr...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I don't use Twitter, so I don't know much about it. Maybe someone's feed looks different depending on whether or not you're logged in.

Thanks. I see it now.