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Old Posted Dec 2, 2022, 7:24 AM
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Ethnic diversity in London and other British cities

2021 census data.

Greater London

White 4,131,172 53.8%
White British 3,239,381 36.8%
Irish 156,333 1.8%
Other 1,290,838 14.7%

Asian or Asian British 1,817,640 20.8%
Indian 656,272 7.5%
Bangladeshi 322,054 3.7%
Pakistani 290,549 3.3%
Chinese 147,520 1.7%
Other Asian 401,245 4.6%

Black or Black British 1,188,370 13.5%
African 697,054 7.9%
Caribbean 345,405 3.9%
Other Black 145,911 0.9%

Mixed 505,775 5.7%
White and Black Caribbean 132,555 1.5%
White and Black African 77,341 0.9%
White and Asian 125,188 1.4%
Other Mixed 170,691 1.9%

Arab 139,791 1.6%
Any other ethnic group 416,977 4.7%
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Do you update this for 2022?
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2022, 12:41 PM
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Only 38.6% White British/Irish!

And even if we consider the whole metro area (around 15 million people), I'm not sure if White British/Irish will be above 50%.

And look at 15% of non-British White. A massive increase. In 2001, they were only 1.4 million in the whole UK. Now 1.3 million in London only.
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Birmingham is now majority non-white.

Birmingham

White 556,608 48.7%
White British 491,211 42.9%
Irish 16,964 1.5%
Other 45,914 4%

Asian 355,384 31%
Pakistani 195,102 17%
Indian 66,519 5.8%
Bangladeshi 48,232 4.2%
Chinese 12,487 1.1%
Other Asian 33,044 2.9%

Black 125,760 10.9%
African 66,822 5.8%
Caribbean 44,718 3.9%
Other Black 14,220 1.2%

Mixed 55,202 4.8%
White and Black Caribbean 25,119 2.2%
White and Black African 4,680 0.4%
White and Asian 13,130 1.1%
Other Mixed 12,276 1.1%

Arab 19,196 1.7%
Any other ethnic group 32,769 2.9%
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Docere, could you post figures for the whole UK as well?
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Briefly, some data for England and Wales:

81.7% are white, down from 86% in 2011.

74.4% are White British (80.5% in 2011)

Ethnic minorities:

Asian 5.5 million 9.3% (4.2 million, 7.5% in 2011)
Black 2.4 million 4% (1.9 million, 3.3% in 2011)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...les/census2021
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So 4.7 million non-British White in the UK in 2021 against 1.4 million in 2001. That's a lot of people.
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So 4.7 million non-British White in the UK in 2021 against 1.4 million in 2001. That's a lot of people.
IIRC the largest group overall is Poles.
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614,000 Poles in England and Wales (1%).
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England and Wales

Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh:
Bangladeshi 644,881 1.1%
Chinese 445,619 0.9%
Indian 1,864,318 3.1%
Pakistani 1,587,819 2.7%
Other Asian 972,783 1.6%

Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African:
African 1,488,381 2.5%
Caribbean 623,119 1%
Other Black 297,778 0.5%

Mixed or Multiple Ethnic Groups:
White and Asian 488,225 0.8%
White and Black African 249,596 0.4%
White and Black Caribbean 513,042 0.9%
Other Mixed and Multiple Ethnic Groups 467,113 0.8%

White:
English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British 44,355,038 74.4%
Irish 507,465 0.9%
Gypsy or Irish Traveller 67,768 0.1%
Roma 100,981 0.2%
Other White 3,667,997 6.2%

Other Ethnic Group:
Arab 331,844 0.6%
Any other ethnic group 923,775 1.6%
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In Greater London

Black Caribbean 55%
Bangladeshi 50%
Black African 47%
Indian 35%
Pakistani 18%
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Only 38.6% White British/Irish!

And even if we consider the whole metro area (around 15 million people), I'm not sure if White British/Irish will be above 50%.

And look at 15% of non-British White. A massive increase. In 2001, they were only 1.4 million in the whole UK. Now 1.3 million in London only.

Yep Slough, Luton have some of the highest minority counts in the country.

Also noteworthy, the highest White majority area is only 75% (Bromley, of which only 67% are White British):


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Yup, a majority in London and the surrounding region have roots outside of the British Isles.
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Scotland will be out later.
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Liverpool isn't very diverse. 84% white, 77% white British.

Notably it has a fairly sizeable Chinese population of 9,000 (1.8%) and has Europe's oldest Chinatown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatown,_Liverpool

It also has an old Black community dating back to the 1700s.
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From which EU countries has England managed to attract the most people? Has there been a reduction caused by Brexit that can be verified outside of the general Covid disruption?

Does England still attract a lot of people from its former colonies due to an ongoing special immigration status (i.e. Jamaica, India)?
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The biggest EU countries are historically Poland and Ireland. After Brexshit the peak of nearly a million Poles went down to about 700,000 in the pandemic, then bounced back to 760,000 last year.

Irish born went down from 410,000 t0 325,000 - but ancestry is of course in the millions (one third of Londoners of all races for example).


The biggest decrease has been amongst the French - back when London was one of France's biggest cities with a rumoured population of 400,000 nationals, now reduced to 150,000 for the whole country.

Romanians have bucked the Brexshit trend -from 410,000 up to 540,000 last year.


Migration from outside the EU has hovered the same since Brexshit for many of the larger minorities, for example the Indian-born remains about 1.4 million with about the same number of 400,000 Indian nationals each year. However, other smaller countries contribute to an overall rise. We receive plenty from Africa and Latin America nowadays:





There's been a sharp spike this year due to Ukraine and Hong Kong:



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I really doubt London is 1/3 Irish ancestry, that's a higher % than Boston. But yes the "Irish" box is really first generation Irish.

In Great Britain, Liverpool and Glasgow have the most Irish ancestry but they're descended from 19th century Irish. From the 20th century onward, Irish immigrants mostly went to London.
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in terms of long term ancestry it's actually as high as 77% in London, measured in 2001 and again 2010- one quarter of Brits have it

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle...n-8445919.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1224611.stm




10% of the country has at least one Ireland born grandparent

https://www.londonmet.ac.uk/news/art...h-in-britain-/



There are varying degrees- Irish born (historically one of the cities most maligned minorities), 'London Irish' (parents are Irish but you're born in London, part of a huge and tight knit community), and Irish ancestry - everyone who ever looked west.

Other cities would be Manchester, which has 35% ancestry, and Liverpool with 75%.

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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 11:16 PM
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Those estimates sound absurd. How could London have 77% Irish ancestry?

London isn't even 77% British white. Ireland has never been a heavily populated island. London didn't even get heavy Irish immigration until the postwar decades. Nowadays the migration is more likely reversed, as the UK has heavy net losses to the EU since Brexit.
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