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Old Posted Apr 18, 2022, 6:30 PM
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Never noticed how much Jamie Dimon looks like Armin Mueller-Stahl, or maybe Beau Bridges... actually both of them together.
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Wonderful building!

This may sound humorous but stated with affection: I can't help but think of Ms garderobe character in Beauty and the Beast when I look at this building! I certainly have been waiting for this for a while. I'm a NYC native but currently live North West of Los Angeles. NYC is close to my heart. I'm only an architecture enthusiast as my background is in health care. Kudos to you Mr Foster!
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^ I can see that.
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Had to be something dirtier than that, from the looks of the lady in the middle.




https://www.surfacemag.com/articles/...-rezoning/amp/

The Ever-Shrinking Chrysler Building
Thanks to New York's Midtown East rezoning plan, a spate of supertalls are underway that will completely overwhelm the once-dominant Chrysler Building.


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The Manhattan skyline looks drastically different today than a decade ago, long before the emergence of the skewer-like supertalls on Billionaire's Row or the oft-maligned glass fortress of Hudson Yards. One district in particular is gearing up for a drastic--if not gradual--reinvention thanks to amendments to rigid zoning laws championed by former Mayor Bill De Blasio. The Midtown East rezoning plan stipulates that developers can build larger skyscrapers in the neighborhood, long anchored by the Chrysler Building, in exchange for financing transit improvements and public space.

The first new project to benefit from the policy is 270 Park Avenue, a 1,388-foot-tall office tower designed by Foster + Partners and Vishaan Chakrabarti's Practice for Architecture and Urbanism that's slated to be the city's largest all-electric skyscraper when construction wraps in 2025. It replaces the Union Carbide Building, a 52-story International Style tower that critics described as "the incarnation of white-collar America" but became the world's tallest building to be voluntarily demolished despite architecture circles vying for its preservation. Renderings of the replacement depict a hulking glassy tower defined by triangular window bracing and a wedding cake shape that references setbacks typical of traditional Manhattan silhouettes.
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270 Park Avenue is the latest entry into the skyward developer arms race that is heralding an era of change for the area--and dwarfing the Chrysler Building, which once reigned as the city's tallest structure. The 1,401-foot-tall One Vanderbilt turned heads when it was unveiled in late 2020, but will soon sit in the shadows of the recently approved 175 Park Avenue, a behemoth designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill that tops out 250 feet higher. Gensler's boxy Tower Fifth, proposed a few blocks north, may become a taller, flashier version of the neighboring 432 Park Avenue. Meanwhile, Vornado Realty is working on securing approvals for the 1,450-foot-tall 350 Park Avenue, also by Foster + Partners.
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The scale of this new construction is largely unprecedented in the city, and if it proceeds as planned, the Chrysler Building will be completely overwhelmed by its colossal neighbors. When the city first announced the Midtown East rezoning plan, the Municipal Art Society was quick to weigh in about the beloved Art Deco skyscraper's fate. "The verifiable photo simulations show how iconic buildings such as the Chrysler Building will not be visible from many vantage points if development occurs as proposed," the organization wrote in 2013.

Developers hardly seem to care: In 2019, Tishman Speyer listed the aging building for a cool $150 million-- $19 million less than the penthouse at 432 Park. Aby Rosen quickly snapped it up and announced an ambitious $200 million revitalization plan that's in progress, but was hamstrung by the pandemic. "It has lost a little bit of its relevance," Rosen says of the building, describing it as an American icon. "But it has not lost its beauty or importance."
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Had to be something dirtier than that, from the looks of the lady in the middle.

You're right. Probably an erection joke. Dirty old creep.
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Wen Chicago Jamie!
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https://www.surfacemag.com/articles/...-rezoning/amp/


Should have been expected. The original developers chose this location because of its strategic importance right next to GC, completely unsurprising that they weren’t the only developers to recognize it. If the depression hadn’t hit then it probably would have been covered by now anyway
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This whole thing is worth a watch. Gary Labarbera was great at the end (abot 29:00 min mark)



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Wen Chicago Jamie!
hopefully it will be something similarly grand.
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"I don't want to get him mad..." LOL
They should have given him the whole half hour.



A little more on those floor heights…



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Trading floor height 15’ 6” floor to ceiling (22’ 6” floor to floor)

Office floor height 10’ 6” floor to ceiling (15’ 6” floor to floor)
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I bet it beats One World Trade Center by being fully rented.
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I bet it beats One World Trade Center by being fully rented.
The Freedom Tower is at 92% or more. This tower won't be rented, but owner occupied. The WTC towers, are some of the highest occupied in the city.



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The next couple of floors will be mechanical space.
8 floors until the first setback

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You are not alone in loving this building

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Glad to meet you.I love this website and feel great with other members.
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